"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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On the brink of cheating

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Serg897

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Just spent some time reading through this thread - I think its important for the rest of us to remember that no matter how bad it went with that sexy girl who ran off after a few months, it can always be worse. You could have gotten married and ended up in a horrible place, like this guy.

Some people will never learn.
You're right, it seems like the OP is too clouded right now to actually make the hard choices and take charge. In the end, it seems, the answer to ALL issues about women is independence, non-attachment, and the ability to walk if things turn to sh!t. The OP is unable to think this way right now, and so his problems will continue.
 

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Danger said:
The update is that he thinks counseling will change her position. He has pain coming if he goes down that road, but that is the only way some people will learn.

/facepalm


Couples counseling = trying to negotiate attraction. It just doesn't work that way.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I've been through this - the female councellor spent the best part of a year placating her, and ignoring my concerns completely.

When I finally got some one-on-one time, without my partner there, and explained my situation fully over 45 mins, the counsellor spent the last 15 mins telling me "she would have done this to anyone, not just you" and asking me to please drag her sorry ass back in there so she could work on my partner's issues alone. The Ex never went back, and we broke up (mutual agreement) a month later.

Not worth your time - this relationship is done. The sooner you accept it, the happier you'll be.
 

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Couple's Counseling = Last stop before toll.
 

Mr.Positive

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Rollo Tomassi said:
Couple's Counseling = Last stop before toll.
I've often wondered if couple's counseling is just another way to beat a guy down further, by placing all the issues on his shoulders.

Honestly,

The only real needs I've got from women is no drama, a happy fun person to be with...and lot's of sex. If a woman is so selfish to not even attempt to meet this simple list that makes me happy, I walk away.

So, with marriage, 'counseling' is needed. Is a woman's selfishness even addressed, or is all the blame placed on the guy?

I wish Chuck all the best. I just don't think counseling with some raging feminist is going to fix a person who is just selfish, and uncaring, as Chuck's wife is. If anything, it will probably make things worse.

Chuck, there's a great quote in an above post....tough times don't last, tough people do.

The future will get better, be strong Brother!!!
 
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