http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VXXXX9iVPI - Thought this was interesting. Can't say I agree with all of her points, but on the whole, its not bad. Thoughts?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Nice Guys Do Not Finish Last
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
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Let me sum it up for you:
She's saying looks matter to girls and that they want to date their equals or better looks wise. She's also saying guys shouldn't just pay attention to the looks of girls. She's making it sound like good-looking girls are terrible. Why? She wants a bigger population of males to herself. She also mentions that she'd breakup with a guy if he was unemployed for a year. This is further proof that a woman's love is conditional.
Would you breakup with your girlfriend if she was unemployed for a year? Nope.
She's saying looks matter to girls and that they want to date their equals or better looks wise. She's also saying guys shouldn't just pay attention to the looks of girls. She's making it sound like good-looking girls are terrible. Why? She wants a bigger population of males to herself. She also mentions that she'd breakup with a guy if he was unemployed for a year. This is further proof that a woman's love is conditional.
Would you breakup with your girlfriend if she was unemployed for a year? Nope.
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Know this, women give the worst advice about women. That is all.
HyperAnalyze
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Getting advice from a woman is like getting advice from a burglar on how to keep your home secure.JohnChops said:
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4north1side2 said:
Sometimes it's hard finding a job in today's economy. It took a couple people I know 8-12 months to find jobs and finally get hired. They were also constantly always looking for jobs.
Btw, If I were married I'd prefer a stay at home wife to take care of the kids, clean, and cook. If she's not gonna do that, don't see the point to marriage.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
VladPatton
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2:52...that's all I could take of that rambling twit.
I wonder how many guys she rejected during her high school days while she was growing up as a ''popular girl''. Jenna Marbles. Seriously?
I wonder how many guys she rejected during her high school days while she was growing up as a ''popular girl''. Jenna Marbles. Seriously?
Groverz
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This is usually true, for tons of reasons including:JohnChops said:
(1) They have no experience dating women
(2) They often don't know what they want
(3) Even when they WANT something, giving it to them often LOWERS your chances (because what they want is to find A GUY, not to find you).
(3) is a key point many men do not realize. Women want you to take it slow and do all this other really bad dating strategy not to increase your chances with her but to delay her having to make a choice so she can explore other options etc.
As for why nice guys do not necessarily finish last.. it's quite simple really, it isn't that nice guys finish last, it is that guys who are not SEXUAL finish last. You have to be sexual.
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^^^Read this again!!!^^^
Women give the worst advice on dating women.
You don't ask Pokémon how to catch them, you ask someone who's great at catching them.
Women give the worst advice on dating women.
You don't ask Pokémon how to catch them, you ask someone who's great at catching them.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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applegoo said:
hell yeah i would. and i have. unemployed girl means only trouble. when girls have too much time on their hands, they will be bored. and girls chase away boredom with some good old drama. i don't need no drama.
i'd go as far as to say i wouldn't even consider LTR'ing a girl without job (except if she is a student)
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CrimsonPanther said:
My ex was less drama when she was unemployed lol. It's all relative.
Great thread! Though I have to say to HyperAnalyze asking a burgler how to secure your home probably would be a good idea, he'd know the trade secrets you should look at. Like how Hannibal helped the cop in Silence of the Lambs. Bad example but I know what you mean 
loved the Pokemon quote haha
JoshSway has it down to a tee, basically women don't understand themselves, never mind their gender as a whole. I avoided telling a girl I was trying to f*ck that I was f*cking someone else as I was putting myself in her position. If I found out a girl was flirting with me and she was f*cking another guy I'd drop her like a stone (usually), whereas when she did find out she couldn't get my c*ck inside her soon enough.
Strange creatures.
loved the Pokemon quote haha JoshSway has it down to a tee, basically women don't understand themselves, never mind their gender as a whole. I avoided telling a girl I was trying to f*ck that I was f*cking someone else as I was putting myself in her position. If I found out a girl was flirting with me and she was f*cking another guy I'd drop her like a stone (usually), whereas when she did find out she couldn't get my c*ck inside her soon enough.
Strange creatures.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
She's right.
If you're not getting laid AT ALL, it's NOT because you're too nice. It's may actually be because, among other possible things, you're an azzhole.
But, in addition, it's probably because you're too poor, too boring, too needy, or too unattractive. In addition to being an azzhole.
If you're not getting laid AT ALL, it's NOT because you're too nice. It's may actually be because, among other possible things, you're an azzhole.
But, in addition, it's probably because you're too poor, too boring, too needy, or too unattractive. In addition to being an azzhole.