"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Nice Guys Do Not Finish Last

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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Let me sum it up for you:

She's saying looks matter to girls and that they want to date their equals or better looks wise. She's also saying guys shouldn't just pay attention to the looks of girls. She's making it sound like good-looking girls are terrible. Why? She wants a bigger population of males to herself. She also mentions that she'd breakup with a guy if he was unemployed for a year. This is further proof that a woman's love is conditional.

Would you breakup with your girlfriend if she was unemployed for a year? Nope.
 

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JohnChops said:
Know this, women give the worst advice about women. That is all.
Getting advice from a woman is like getting advice from a burglar on how to keep your home secure.
 

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4north1side2 said:
You are the biggest sucka in the world if you stay with an able unemployed bum beyond 3 months. That's ****ing ridiculous and the reason why a lot of men who have stay at home wives get played.

Sometimes it's hard finding a job in today's economy. It took a couple people I know 8-12 months to find jobs and finally get hired. They were also constantly always looking for jobs.

Btw, If I were married I'd prefer a stay at home wife to take care of the kids, clean, and cook. If she's not gonna do that, don't see the point to marriage.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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2:52...that's all I could take of that rambling twit.

I wonder how many guys she rejected during her high school days while she was growing up as a ''popular girl''. Jenna Marbles. Seriously?
 

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HyperAnalyze said:
Getting advice from a woman is like getting advice from a burglar on how to keep your home secure.
:crackup:

I agree. :yes:
 

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JohnChops said:
Know this, women give the worst advice about women. That is all.
This is usually true, for tons of reasons including:

(1) They have no experience dating women
(2) They often don't know what they want
(3) Even when they WANT something, giving it to them often LOWERS your chances (because what they want is to find A GUY, not to find you).

(3) is a key point many men do not realize. Women want you to take it slow and do all this other really bad dating strategy not to increase your chances with her but to delay her having to make a choice so she can explore other options etc.

As for why nice guys do not necessarily finish last.. it's quite simple really, it isn't that nice guys finish last, it is that guys who are not SEXUAL finish last. You have to be sexual.
 

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^^^Read this again!!!^^^

Women give the worst advice on dating women.

You don't ask Pokémon how to catch them, you ask someone who's great at catching them.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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applegoo said:
Would you breakup with your girlfriend if she was unemployed for a year? Nope.

hell yeah i would. and i have. unemployed girl means only trouble. when girls have too much time on their hands, they will be bored. and girls chase away boredom with some good old drama. i don't need no drama.

i'd go as far as to say i wouldn't even consider LTR'ing a girl without job (except if she is a student)
 

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Wow. She is classy, class e! Where can I get her number?
 

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CrimsonPanther said:
hell yeah i would. and i have. unemployed girl means only trouble. when girls have too much time on their hands, they will be bored. and girls chase away boredom with some good old drama. i don't need no drama.

i'd go as far as to say i wouldn't even consider LTR'ing a girl without job (except if she is a student)

My ex was less drama when she was unemployed lol. It's all relative.
 

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Great thread! Though I have to say to HyperAnalyze asking a burgler how to secure your home probably would be a good idea, he'd know the trade secrets you should look at. Like how Hannibal helped the cop in Silence of the Lambs. Bad example but I know what you mean ;) loved the Pokemon quote haha

JoshSway has it down to a tee, basically women don't understand themselves, never mind their gender as a whole. I avoided telling a girl I was trying to f*ck that I was f*cking someone else as I was putting myself in her position. If I found out a girl was flirting with me and she was f*cking another guy I'd drop her like a stone (usually), whereas when she did find out she couldn't get my c*ck inside her soon enough.

Strange creatures.
 

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Espi said:
When a guy is unemployed, he is a "lazy bum."

When a woman is unemployed, she's being "discriminated against."
That's the truth right there.
The contrast is even greater considering that the vast majority of jobs lost in this economy have been "male" jobs.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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She's right.

If you're not getting laid AT ALL, it's NOT because you're too nice. It's may actually be because, among other possible things, you're an azzhole.

But, in addition, it's probably because you're too poor, too boring, too needy, or too unattractive. In addition to being an azzhole.
 
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