I've been a nice guy most of my life, you know doing things for girls, kissing up to them, bringing flowers and giving gifts to them and for this I end up being their friend. I've been raised to be nice to girls and to just be myself. What can I do to get out of this mindset? I've been reading the ebook "Double Your Dating" as well as the many articles from this site. Some of the information is right on but other stuff just does not make any sense like using pickup lines. Women can see right through you when you do that.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Nice Guy
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
First thing you should do is read the DJ bible, which you can get on this site. Then, you need to realise that your sucking up behaviour is not doing you any favours as far as pulling women is concerned. You need to stop putting females on pedestals, and instead start doing things for yourself as opposed to them. Also, realise that women aren't putting you above themselves, thinking that they must be as nice as possible and suck up to you. On the contrary, they are probably laughing at you behind your back for being suck a sap. Why would you want to be a doormat to girls?
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
Watch this movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBtb_Evo-Wk
Then read the DJ bible.
Then proceed to Boot Camp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBtb_Evo-Wk
Then read the DJ bible.
Then proceed to Boot Camp.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
tomcat2007
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Man. Stop all what your doing with women and do what the previous threads told you. Women will see through your BS and walk all over you. It happened to me when I was younger and I stopped!! Stop right now or you will learn some hard lessons!!!
Might want to check this out:
http://www.pickupnyc.com/articles/niceguy.html
Pretty good insight. It basically says if you wouldn't do something for a random guy, then why would you do it for a random girl?
Like.... would you buy some guy that you didn't know at the bar a drink? No. Then don't do it for a girl... doesn't make you nice, it makes you a SUCKER
http://www.pickupnyc.com/articles/niceguy.html
Pretty good insight. It basically says if you wouldn't do something for a random guy, then why would you do it for a random girl?
Like.... would you buy some guy that you didn't know at the bar a drink? No. Then don't do it for a girl... doesn't make you nice, it makes you a SUCKER