I've been a nice guy most of my life, you know doing things for girls, kissing up to them, bringing flowers and giving gifts to them and for this I end up being their friend. I've been raised to be nice to girls and to just be myself. What can I do to get out of this mindset? I've been reading the ebook "Double Your Dating" as well as the many articles from this site. Some of the information is right on but other stuff just does not make any sense like using pickup lines. Women can see right through you when you do that.
"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Nice Guy
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
First thing you should do is read the DJ bible, which you can get on this site. Then, you need to realise that your sucking up behaviour is not doing you any favours as far as pulling women is concerned. You need to stop putting females on pedestals, and instead start doing things for yourself as opposed to them. Also, realise that women aren't putting you above themselves, thinking that they must be as nice as possible and suck up to you. On the contrary, they are probably laughing at you behind your back for being suck a sap. Why would you want to be a doormat to girls?
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
Watch this movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBtb_Evo-Wk
Then read the DJ bible.
Then proceed to Boot Camp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBtb_Evo-Wk
Then read the DJ bible.
Then proceed to Boot Camp.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
tomcat2007
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Man. Stop all what your doing with women and do what the previous threads told you. Women will see through your BS and walk all over you. It happened to me when I was younger and I stopped!! Stop right now or you will learn some hard lessons!!!
Might want to check this out:
http://www.pickupnyc.com/articles/niceguy.html
Pretty good insight. It basically says if you wouldn't do something for a random guy, then why would you do it for a random girl?
Like.... would you buy some guy that you didn't know at the bar a drink? No. Then don't do it for a girl... doesn't make you nice, it makes you a SUCKER
http://www.pickupnyc.com/articles/niceguy.html
Pretty good insight. It basically says if you wouldn't do something for a random guy, then why would you do it for a random girl?
Like.... would you buy some guy that you didn't know at the bar a drink? No. Then don't do it for a girl... doesn't make you nice, it makes you a SUCKER