I've been a nice guy most of my life, you know doing things for girls, kissing up to them, bringing flowers and giving gifts to them and for this I end up being their friend. I've been raised to be nice to girls and to just be myself. What can I do to get out of this mindset? I've been reading the ebook "Double Your Dating" as well as the many articles from this site. Some of the information is right on but other stuff just does not make any sense like using pickup lines. Women can see right through you when you do that.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Nice Guy
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
First thing you should do is read the DJ bible, which you can get on this site. Then, you need to realise that your sucking up behaviour is not doing you any favours as far as pulling women is concerned. You need to stop putting females on pedestals, and instead start doing things for yourself as opposed to them. Also, realise that women aren't putting you above themselves, thinking that they must be as nice as possible and suck up to you. On the contrary, they are probably laughing at you behind your back for being suck a sap. Why would you want to be a doormat to girls?
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
Watch this movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBtb_Evo-Wk
Then read the DJ bible.
Then proceed to Boot Camp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBtb_Evo-Wk
Then read the DJ bible.
Then proceed to Boot Camp.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
tomcat2007
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Man. Stop all what your doing with women and do what the previous threads told you. Women will see through your BS and walk all over you. It happened to me when I was younger and I stopped!! Stop right now or you will learn some hard lessons!!!
Might want to check this out:
http://www.pickupnyc.com/articles/niceguy.html
Pretty good insight. It basically says if you wouldn't do something for a random guy, then why would you do it for a random girl?
Like.... would you buy some guy that you didn't know at the bar a drink? No. Then don't do it for a girl... doesn't make you nice, it makes you a SUCKER
http://www.pickupnyc.com/articles/niceguy.html
Pretty good insight. It basically says if you wouldn't do something for a random guy, then why would you do it for a random girl?
Like.... would you buy some guy that you didn't know at the bar a drink? No. Then don't do it for a girl... doesn't make you nice, it makes you a SUCKER