I've been a nice guy most of my life, you know doing things for girls, kissing up to them, bringing flowers and giving gifts to them and for this I end up being their friend. I've been raised to be nice to girls and to just be myself. What can I do to get out of this mindset? I've been reading the ebook "Double Your Dating" as well as the many articles from this site. Some of the information is right on but other stuff just does not make any sense like using pickup lines. Women can see right through you when you do that.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
First thing you should do is read the DJ bible, which you can get on this site. Then, you need to realise that your sucking up behaviour is not doing you any favours as far as pulling women is concerned. You need to stop putting females on pedestals, and instead start doing things for yourself as opposed to them. Also, realise that women aren't putting you above themselves, thinking that they must be as nice as possible and suck up to you. On the contrary, they are probably laughing at you behind your back for being suck a sap. Why would you want to be a doormat to girls?
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
Watch this movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBtb_Evo-Wk
Then read the DJ bible.
Then proceed to Boot Camp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBtb_Evo-Wk
Then read the DJ bible.
Then proceed to Boot Camp.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
tomcat2007
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Man. Stop all what your doing with women and do what the previous threads told you. Women will see through your BS and walk all over you. It happened to me when I was younger and I stopped!! Stop right now or you will learn some hard lessons!!!
Might want to check this out:
http://www.pickupnyc.com/articles/niceguy.html
Pretty good insight. It basically says if you wouldn't do something for a random guy, then why would you do it for a random girl?
Like.... would you buy some guy that you didn't know at the bar a drink? No. Then don't do it for a girl... doesn't make you nice, it makes you a SUCKER
http://www.pickupnyc.com/articles/niceguy.html
Pretty good insight. It basically says if you wouldn't do something for a random guy, then why would you do it for a random girl?
Like.... would you buy some guy that you didn't know at the bar a drink? No. Then don't do it for a girl... doesn't make you nice, it makes you a SUCKER