She been texting me about the idea, and I'd do it. She'd prefer her, another girl and me over another guy but I'm not sure how to approach this :s. I asked her if she considered it cheating and she said no, but I'm not sure about it all.. thoughts?
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Just understand that if you go through with it, your relationship with her is effectively doomed. The very fact she brings it up is suggestive your relationship is doomed.JayCee23 said:She been texting me about the idea, and I'd do it. She'd prefer her, another girl and me over another guy but I'm not sure how to approach this :s. I asked her if she considered it cheating and she said no, but I'm not sure about it all.. thoughts?
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Deep Dish said:Just understand that if you go through with it, your relationship with her is effectively doomed. The very fact she brings it up is suggestive your relationship is doomed.
CosignedI.A.F.Y.B. said:Is this some fantasy or thought when she was high??
Sounds like a red flag to me. What? You aint givin it to her good enough so she needs someone else added to the equation. It seems that way...
She is not girlfriend material.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Why so?Deep Dish said:Just understand that if you go through with it, your relationship with her is effectively doomed. The very fact she brings it up is suggestive your relationship is doomed.
Bible_Belt said:What does a girlfriend have to do to please sosuave? It's impossible.
I would never consider a girl to be long-term material if she didn't want an occasional threesome.
Because people would categorize her with a sex freak or nympho who can't control her urges, and they would automatically assume shes going to get her relief from other sources other than the OP... which is a rational assumption to watch out for a red flag.Crazy Asian said:can someone explain why this is a red flag?
Because she's a pervert and isn't committed to your relationship.Crazy Asian said:can someone explain why this is a red flag?
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Bible Belt is a girl?Raikojo17 said:women on this site are always wrong
I'm used to it
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.