“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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My "Algorithm"

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She showed very high quality in regards to character, her own purpose (she has a doctorate) and was very feminine and showed very high interest.
She divorced last year from a 15+ year marriage and had recently jumped back into the dating scene. She went out with 1 guy on a several hour hiking trip (their only "date" before going out with me, it never got sexual with him, and the rest is history.
I have found that women who are a catch (strong character, financially self dependent, solid career/higher education, low body counts, feminine) generally dont stay on the market very long after they come out a LRT. So far we get along great, the sex is on point, she literally waits on me hand and foot, cooks dinner, etc. So its been a solid choice so far.
In what world is a 40yrs old (you mentioned her age in another thread) divorced woman a catch? o_O
It reminds me of the slogan "War is peace, freedom is slavery, and ignorance is strength" from Orwell's 1984.

High quality character and very feminine don't belong in the same sentence with divorced. Like, c'mon man. And don't even try give a sob story as to why she's divorced, we've heard enough of that from @BeExcellent :D:p
 

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In what world is a 40yrs old (you mentioned her age in another thread) divorced woman a catch? o_O
It reminds me of the slogan "War is peace, freedom is slavery, and ignorance is strength" from Orwell's 1984.

High quality character and very feminine don't belong in the same sentence with divorced. Like, c'mon man. And don't even try give a sob story as to why she's divorced, we've heard enough of that from @BeExcellent :D:p
You're clueless.
 
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A former plate of mine and current close friend (yes its possible to have a close platonic female friend) gives me a hard time and calls my dating process an "Algorithm". She gives me shyte about it, but it most certainly works, and it also worked on her when I first started seeing her several years ago.
Why doesn't it work now?
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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*I generally will sit across the table from the woman but I always find something to show her on my phone if I feel a good vibe going and at that point I move over to sit beside her. I dont immediately sit next to a woman because I dont want her to feel as though I have given her any approval yet and I dont want to be stuck beside a woman if she ends up being super weird or the conversation sucks.
Never really understood the sitting next to her bit. I mean I guess I understand it gives you some kino opportunities and it's easy to turn and kiss her. I just have always preferred to sit across each other and make eye contact while we are talking. I don't imagine it makes that much difference really, just a matter of preference. I'm not sure sitting next to her automatically signals approval though. Getting up and moving next to her might, I don't know. Some people seem to prefer to sit across from each other and some people seem to like to sit next to each other. Doesn't mean much, I guess. Just something I find interesting.
 

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Never really understood the sitting next to her bit. I mean I guess I understand it gives you some kino opportunities and it's easy to turn and kiss her. I just have always preferred to sit across each other and make eye contact while we are talking. I don't imagine it makes that much difference really, just a matter of preference. I'm not sure sitting next to her automatically signals approval though. Getting up and moving next to her might, I don't know. Some people seem to prefer to sit across from each other and some people seem to like to sit next to each other. Doesn't mean much, I guess. Just something I find interesting.
Eye contact is good but you don't want to sit so far away that you can't easily touch. Eye contact while touching > eye contact without touching. Which is why you gotta know or be able to stake out the venue, even if going by yelp pics.

Some women will deliberately select venues with big tables, and make a point of getting there first to set a sterile efa (early frame announcement). Bonus points if they start a tab at the bar, and then take the drink back to the big table (or booth). Then show just enough interest where you're sucked into the date just to suss her out, ending up with a nice tab and a peck on the cheek. Being able to kino (and size her up quicker) will allow you to cut your losses, and conversely get her heated up and demonstrate leadership if she is indeed suitably interested.
 
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Thats a good primer for the uninitiated in the op. How many LTRs have you had and how long was the longest? What do you attribute the LTRs ending to? If the goal is a partner for life, what do you think has been the biggest factor stopping that from happening?
 

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Being able to kino (and size her up quicker) will allow you to cut your losses, and conversely get her heated up and demonstrate leadership if she is indeed suitably interested.
Well, it's not like you can't kino (lightly) when you're sitting across from each other. Although I agree there are more possibilities to get more physical if you're sitting next to her. I just don't like turning my head to talk to her.
 

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Thats a good primer for the uninitiated in the op. How many LTRs have you had and how long was the longest? What do you attribute the LTRs ending to? If the goal is a partner for life, what do you think has been the biggest factor stopping that from happening?
I was married once for 8 years. I think the biggest reason to never marrying again (so far) has been pickyness. I refuse to marry someone who doesnt check a lot of boxes. Once I really get to know a chick and there are obviously differences on big ticket items, its over and the search continues.
I had several multi year relationships and several year or so relationships since getting divorced at 35 yrs old. The in between time is developing solid rotations of 3-4 chicks.
 

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I was married once for 8 years. I think the biggest reason to never marrying again (so far) has been pickyness. I refuse to marry someone who doesnt check a lot of boxes. Once I really get to know a chick and there are obviously differences on big ticket items, its over and the search continues.
I had several multi year relationships and several year or so relationships since getting divorced at 35 yrs old. The in between time is developing solid rotations of 3-4 chicks.
When you do the rotations, how often do you see each of the women? That sounds like a lot of work.
 

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Well, it's not like you can't kino (lightly) when you're sitting across from each other. Although I agree there are more possibilities to get more physical if you're sitting next to her. I just don't like turning my head to talk to her.
Try turning your body
 

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When you do the rotations, how often do you see each of the women? That sounds like a lot of work.
Once a week. Not much work honestly. First date follows the algorithm, from there its generally them coming over to my place or a sporadic date here or there.

And I like going out for a drink. So they are just joining me.
 

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I was married once for 8 years. I think the biggest reason to never marrying again (so far) has been pickyness. I refuse to marry someone who doesnt check a lot of boxes. Once I really get to know a chick and there are obviously differences on big ticket items, its over and the search continues.
I had several multi year relationships and several year or so relationships since getting divorced at 35 yrs old. The in between time is developing solid rotations of 3-4 chicks.
But the big ticket items could be filtered for early on to save everyone's time. I know that women are great at faking things for the first few months but there's sophisticated tests that can give you the answers early on.

Knowing what you want (being picky) is a great problem to have. Do you think after meeting a lot of incompatible women you eventually let one through in a moment of weakness and give her a shot instead of holding out for the one that checks all the boxes?
 

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Try turning your body
I don't like sitting sideways in a seat. Anyway, as I said, I prefer to sit across from someone so I can make eye contact when talking with her. This reminds me of old pickup theory where they used to tell you not to turn toward a girl because it showed too much eagerness/interest. Some PUAs even wanted you facing away from her (albeit this was on the original pickup, not an actual date), and talk to her over your shoulder. I've never been an advocate of that, though, I always thought that bit of advice was pretty asinine.
 

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But the big ticket items could be filtered for early on to save everyone's time. I know that women are great at faking things for the first few months but there's sophisticated tests that can give you the answers early on.

Knowing what you want (being picky) is a great problem to have. Do you think after meeting a lot of incompatible women you eventually let one through in a moment of weakness and give her a shot instead of holding out for the one that checks all the boxes?
Depends on the situation. And a woman can fill a role without being someone to settle down with.
 

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I don't like sitting sideways in a seat. Anyway, as I said, I prefer to sit across from someone so I can make eye contact when talking with her. This reminds me of old pickup theory where they used to tell you not to turn toward a girl because it showed too much eagerness/interest. Some PUAs even wanted you facing away from her (albeit this was on the original pickup, not an actual date), and talk to her over your shoulder. I've never been an advocate of that, though, I always thought that bit of advice was pretty asinine.
I've never liked sitting across from someone on a first date because psychologically that's how adversaries sit when they are against each other rather than on the same side.
 

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I've never liked sitting across from someone on a first date because psychologically that's how adversaries sit when they are against each other rather than on the same side.
Lol, like playing chess or arm wrestling? Like I said, whatever you prefer.
 

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Lol, like playing chess or arm wrestling? Like I said, whatever you prefer.
That and also like an interrogator and person being interrogated or two opposing lawyers and their clients working on settlements, etc...

Just one of those subconscious tricks to get people more comfortable quickly
 

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Just one of those subconscious tricks to get people more comfortable quickly
I'm more comfortable being across from the person. It's never once entered my head that the person across from me was the opposition.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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