"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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That’s not necessarily true. My E2 is almost 40 but my T is1k and my FT is over 20. My E2 should be higher. I didn’t understand this at first.
You have an SHBG issue...big-time. There is no way you should have total test that high with FT barely normal. All of your T is being gobbled up by SHBG and is not usable...

Did they test for SHBG levels with the blood work you have?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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You have an SHBG issue...big-time. There is no way you should have total test that high with FT barely normal. All of your T is being gobbled up by SHBG and is not usable...

Did they test for SHBG levels with the blood work you have?
I missed the second part. No, did not test SHBG but I’m going to order it up now.
 

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I got a free T and prolactin test from my doctor, I've filled the forms I just need to go there, I want to hold off for a week or 2.

I feel my levels have risen from when I made this thread. I'm hornier, feel more manly, I have more manly musk and BO despite showering 2x per day. I can bang and want round 2-3 where before it was one and done. I have abs forming, more muscle and at least 1-2% less BF. Been taking supplements and getting daily sunshine with heavy leg workouts 2x per week for the last 2+ months.

I'm hoping to have raised total T at least 15%+.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I’m three weeks in now and while I have the best morning wood I’ve had in a long time, I can’t say I have a much more affective experience related to my sex life. I know it can take a little longer but I was hoping it wouldn’t. Cialis makes it night and day. I have endocrinology appointment in a couple of weeks.
 

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I’m three weeks in now and while I have the best morning wood I’ve had in a long time, I can’t say I have a much more affective experience related to my sex life. I know it can take a little longer but I was hoping it wouldn’t. Cialis makes it night and day. I have endocrinology appointment in a couple of weeks.
T has very little to do with Erections. Check your progesterone to estradiol ratio.
 

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T has very little to do with Erections. Check your progesterone to estradiol ratio.
I am so over this. Endocrinology cannot come fast enough.

I think I am going to push my intake to 200mg a week as opposed to 140mg right now and see how it goes. I see the doctor in a couple weeks anyway so I don’t see the downside.

was really hoping 3 weeks of 1,000iu HCG would get the libido up but that doesn’t seem to be doing a whole lot either.
 
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I’m tracking for 200mg. Reading this could be a carryover effect on the E2 crash so going to try and help it up with more T.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I’m tracking for 200mg. Reading this could be a carryover effect on the E2 crash so going to try and help it up with more T.
Progesterone is far more important to your situation right now, FYI. Progesterone = natural Viagra.

The issue is Estrogen dominance most likely and that is far more likely to be an issue with the interplay between Progesterone and Estrogen and not Testosterone and Estrogen.
 

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The chemistry experiments continue….
Most people do chemistry experiments on their own every day by not getting proper sleep. Literally throws your body and hormones into turmoil and is one of the most stressful things you could do to it.
 

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Progesterone is far more important to your situation right now, FYI. Progesterone = natural Viagra.

The issue is Estrogen dominance most likely and that is far more likely to be an issue with the interplay between Progesterone and Estrogen and not Testosterone and Estrogen.
I have the endocrinologist in two weeks, until then I am taking Boron .. just ordered Tongkat. Was off for a week. Going to increase to 1k mg a day.
 

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I have the endocrinologist in two weeks, until then I am taking Boron and I may speed order another round of Tongkat and punch that down my gut
Is he doing blood work? If so make sure he includes full male/full female and DHEA-S in there as well
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Is he doing blood work? If so make sure he includes full male/full female and DHEA-S in there as well
I am uploading my prior work plus indicating I am on TRT but I will make sure to ask specifically. I feel like trash. Depressed etc. I am usually so upbeat and unreasonably c0cky. This blows.
 

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I also just spent about a week between st. Patrick’s and a short trip with my lady friend, took no Cialis from Sunday onwards, so I did ok in the sack but not up to my usual standards, so that has been playing with my head, as well as missed lifting for about a week, and drank just about every day. That certainly didn’t help whatsoever. I did heavy lifting today and started taking all my supplements etc I feel a little better.
 

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No. Sleep deprivation is not comparable to experimenting with exogenous hormones.
You sure about that? All depends on how much. I'd argue that sleep deprivation is far more detrimental to your hormonal state than TRT.

If you want the perfect hormonal storm to store body fat try sleeping 5 hours or less on a regular basis and get back to me in 6 months and let me know how that worked out for you
 
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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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