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Mission: Help Luke Sywalker get laid before he turns 31!

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Luke Skywalker is Starman, the troll that makes up ****ed up stories for internet kicks

i want anyone to look at this thread and how this Luke guy thinks and tell me that it sounds like how a real man would think!!!!

then, go search "Starman" for all his weird ass made up stories........and yes, Player Supreme personally told me that Luke Skywalker is Starman




he gets what he wants - 8 pages of attention
 
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That is absurd. Let me waste my time defending myself. This is reminiscent of girls who refuse to believe my November adult profile declaring that I was an 30 y/o looking for a lay. There are other people who came on this site with the same issues, Invisible Man, and others, who never kissed or did it with a girl before. There is a website: http://www.incelsupport.org (which I'm an ex-member) that's devoted to a group of people who never had sex for over six months, or in some cases for their entire lives.

If anyone wants to call me a troll, they are calling lots of people in a similar plight the same thing. Fact is, crap happens to people. My situation is not dissimilar to many people out there who dont have a life but at least I'm trying. The only element that I concede to is the idea that I'm not out to get laid with anyone, but perhaps on my own terms where I can find a quality girl or suitable mate that I can be discrete with.
 

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I must concede your point luke. There is nothing wrong with that. YET! My whole point of bringing this up was to play devils advocate on to why if you are going solo (haha starwars joke) it is the same as having sex. But trying to prove it one way, has shown me the other. Premarital sex is also NOT condemned by the bible. There is no scripture (at least in the original text) that directly denounces premarital sex. Fornication is a mistranslation of the word pornea which was sex with a prostitute (they were part of a temple ritual of fertility meant to improve your crops if you have sex with them, basically idolatry sex). So while masturbation has been misconveyed to me, so has premarital sex with two single people. Neither are technically sin.
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
6 days left. Let's see what I'll do tommorow. Maybe nothing will happen, but I'm not giving up, because you just never know, maybe I'll get lucky.
This is exactly why you are where you are. You're too busy thinking about tomorrow. Do you know what tomorrow is? It's hours from now. It's not a new day, a fresh start, a place where things can change. That fresh start is always staring straight at you. Just because the earth rotates and you cannot see the sun for a while does not mean tomorrow is some magical time and place. Right now is magical. Right now is important. Right now is all you have.

Why are you waiting for the future to take action? What is so pressing that you cannot do it NOW? Right now is a guarantee, but tomorrow may never come.

Also, boys, please stop quoting a book of mythology as guidelines to live your life by. You're old enough now to make your own rules. Make them, live by them, reap the rewards and face the consequences of your own decisions.
 

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kyphan said:
Also, boys, please stop quoting a book of mythology as guidelines to live your life by. You're old enough now to make your own rules. Make them, live by them, reap the rewards and face the consequences of your own decisions.
That's your opinion. Just because you disagree, does not make it wrong. I am not going to tell you to practice or not practice a faith. Please show the same courtesy.
 

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Fortunate_Juan said:
That's your opinion. Just because you disagree, does not make it wrong. I am not going to tell you to practice or not practice a faith. Please show the same courtesy.
I am showing respect - I believe you took offense to the statement because you might have misread it. I did not say "the Bible is garbage," I think many of its stories provide good insight to "right and wrong." However, a group of people are arguing over some of the messages of morality in it. Does it matter what the Bible says, or does it matter what you personally believe is right? It matters what you believe is right. That's part of what this site teaches you: to make your own rules and decisions.

Look, arguing over a 2000 year old modified interpretation of the Bible is silly. Unless you can read the original text in Hebrew and understand exactly what the author was saying at the time, which is difficult since it's a collection of books written over hundreds of years (language changes dramatically over time), then you are arguing over someone else's personal interpretation of the text.

Here's one example: for the past 1200 years, the Bible has discussed Jesus Christ as the son of God. What was he for the first 800 years? He was referred to as a teacher of God's message. Would you say there's a big difference in the meaning those words - teacher and son?

I'm not trying to bash the Bible - I'm trying to show you that you're basing your life on what someone else said, and you cannot even be sure as to what he was saying. Figure out your own path. Otherwise you'll blame someone else for your problems, even though there is no one else to blame.
 

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kyphan said:
I am showing respect - I believe you took offense to the statement because you might have misread it. I did not say "the Bible is garbage," I think many of its stories provide good insight to "right and wrong." However, a group of people are arguing over some of the messages of morality in it. Does it matter what the Bible says, or does it matter what you personally believe is right? It matters what you believe is right. That's part of what this site teaches you: to make your own rules and decisions.

Look, arguing over a 2000 year old modified interpretation of the Bible is silly. Unless you can read the original text in Hebrew and understand exactly what the author was saying at the time, which is difficult since it's a collection of books written over hundreds of years (language changes dramatically over time), then you are arguing over someone else's personal interpretation of the text.

Here's one example: for the past 1200 years, the Bible has discussed Jesus Christ as the son of God. What was he for the first 800 years? He was referred to as a teacher of God's message. Would you say there's a big difference in the meaning those words - teacher and son?

I'm not trying to bash the Bible - I'm trying to show you that you're basing your life on what someone else said, and you cannot even be sure as to what he was saying. Figure out your own path. Otherwise you'll blame someone else for your problems, even though there is no one else to blame.
I am not offended. I am not saying you are bashing the bible or lacking respect. I am just trying to point out Luke believes the bible, he is a practicing Christian. His view on the matter is different than yours. You think it's a collection of stories, in Christian faith (at least most of them) it's considered the word of God. I am trying to communicate on his level, I may not be a die-hard christian, I don't know where he is either, but I have read a good chunk of the bible, and I have gone to a few different kinds of church. I am no where near an expert, I am only trying to get a further understanding.
 
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Openers where two chicks are together.

Yes, back on topic. Today I went to the gym again for a routine work-out (upper body workout I've been doing for the past month). And there were like these two women, both of them ugly by most standards, but they were like Indian looking, so since I had an Indian-fetish I was on to them. They were talking to each other and there was an unoccupied threadmill in between them. So I'm thinking, let me go on that unoccupied threadmill, but then a bunch of negative thoughts come on.

Suppose I go on that unoccupied thread mill between the girls, they stop talking to each other, there is this ackward silence, and then I make a feeble attempt to say hi to one of the most attractive girls before silently retreating back into my shell and continuing with the threadmill for five minutes before jumping off and running into oblivion from a potential social train wreck waiting about to happen.

Upon some intropsection and reflection, after the fact, I determined that there were two conceivable outcomes, and two conceivable solutions for those outcomes.

Outcome # 1--> They continue talking to each other.

Solution for outcome --> Find out what they are talking about and crash into the convo, whether it's personally interesting or not, just ask a question or two about it.

Outcome #2 ---> They stop talking to each other and there is this ackward silence.

Solution for outcome --> "Why did you gals stop talking, don't worry I dont bite. (smile) I'm Luke by the way what's your names? You know each other here? etc...

Some of the best solutions come after the fact since the anxiety is gone and I can think clearly.

Extension of opener or generalisation: If any two chicks are talking to each other, approach them, just stand there and say nothing. Find out what they are talking about if they continue talking. Try new opener (Why did you gals stop talking, don't worry, I dont bite (smile), by the way my name is Luke. and experiment with it.

Well, this probably wont get me laid, but heck, some great analyzing.
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
Yes, back on topic. Today I went to the gym again for a routine work-out (upper body workout I've been doing for the past month). And there were like these two women, both of them ugly by most standards, but they were like Indian looking, so since I had an Indian-fetish I was on to them. They were talking to each other and there was an unoccupied threadmill in between them. So I'm thinking, let me go on that unoccupied threadmill, but then a bunch of negative thoughts come on.

Suppose I go on that unoccupied thread mill between the girls, they stop talking to each other, there is this ackward silence, and then I make a feeble attempt to say hi to one of the most attractive girls before silently retreating back into my shell and continuing with the threadmill for five minutes before jumping off and running into oblivion from a potential social train wreck waiting about to happen.

Upon some intropsection and reflection, after the fact, I determined that there were two conceivable outcomes, and two conceivable solutions for those outcomes.

Outcome # 1--> They continue talking to each other.

Solution for outcome --> Find out what they are talking about and crash into the convo, whether it's personally interesting or not, just ask a question or two about it.

Outcome #2 ---> They stop talking to each other and there is this ackward silence.

Solution for outcome --> "Why did you gals stop talking, don't worry I dont bite. (smile) I'm Luke by the way what's your names? You know each other here? etc...

Some of the best solutions come after the fact since the anxiety is gone and I can think clearly.

Extension of opener or generalisation: If any two chicks are talking to each other, approach them, just stand there and say nothing. Find out what they are talking about if they continue talking. Try new opener (Why did you gals stop talking, don't worry, I dont bite (smile), by the way my name is Luke. and experiment with it.

Well, this probably wont get me laid, but heck, some great analyzing.
Good. Next time do a little less analizing and more doing. If you keep doing the work and adjusting each time, you will be smooth with the ladies.


BTW, what is this program you are doing at the gym and your goal?
 
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Call_Me_Daddy said:
Good. Next time do a little less analizing and more doing. If you keep doing the work and adjusting each time, you will be smooth with the ladies.


BTW, what is this program you are doing at the gym and your goal?
Upper body buildup, trying to build more muscle mass on the arms and chest to look stronger. Within a month I'll be reviewing the progress and consulting with my trainer again. I'm doing the same work-out prescribed by my trainer three times a week, and have been maintaining it perfectly, without any lapse.
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
Upper body buildup, trying to build more muscle mass on the arms and chest to look stronger. Within a month I'll be reviewing the progress and consulting with my trainer again. I'm doing the same work-out prescribed by my trainer three times a week, and have been maintaining it perfectly, without any lapse.
Any good program (with good application) should show you visible results in two or three weeks.

Minor results, but still visible. Usually strength gain.

How have you been progresing through the weights? What did you start out at and what are you at now? (You record weights, sets, reps... righ?)
 

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6 No B.S. tips to succeed

Ok ok... I've been reading this thread and and here's my two cents... I think most guys will find some value in this not just our young.. ehh not so young skywalker

DON'T USE THE NET!


I) If your internet picture is 1000 worst than what you actually look like good luck getting anywhere with it.

II) Intimate sections of websites don't work!!! Read that again. Most of them are fake with people send you message to make you pay the fee so they can take your ca$h.

III) Don't use the internet to get women. Like the other guys here have said… Trust me on this one.. Even if you did get a woman on a date.. would you have the social skills to attract her and escalate?

HERE'S WHAT TO DO INSTEAD...

The solution, like everyone else has said, is to start meeting some women in the real word. To get started here's what you do...

But first remember you must Take Action NOW. What do most people do when they read a post even if it's really really good to help them.. read another one.. Do something when you finish reading this post toward your goal. Go out right now, call a friend now to plan a time, write down some openers you want to try NOW, get a journal started and write your goal eg. 10 approaches in one day.

And don't think that just because you're out of shape (I don't know if you are?) you can't start doing this stuff. Work on a diet and exercise plan and do this at the same time.. By the time your body is in super shape you'll already have the interaction skills you need.

1) Call a friend who you know has this problem too or find a wing man on the net. Hands DOWN the best way to succeed is to work through it with someone else. You need somebody else to hold you accountable or you'll never take action. Trust me, if you go out 20 miles to meet a guy and you're there just for game skill improving you'll approach more women.

2) Go somewhere 10-30 miles from home and talk to women there. Great place is a mall on Saturdays during the day but any time is a good time. The reason to do it further away from home is so you don't feel people you know might see you. Surprisingly, this can unconsciously affect guys.

3) Approach EVERY woman you see. If you start getting picky you'll talk yourself out of approaching anyone. Don't fool yourself, approaching women is hard at first our instant reaction is to stop because we feel some fear. Understand you WILL feel fear and then do it anyway.

4) EXPECT to get rejected. You heard me. If you want to really make this work and really improve you're going to have to approach AT LEAST 10 per day... (whens your birthday by the way? March 18th?) Often times we think we need to get something "just right" and "perfect" the first time or we don't want to do it at all.. Silly isn't it. Perfect example of this?

5) Approach all women you see groups and alone - Get Momentum - You wouldn't believe how important it is to just DO SOMETHING.. - groups and alone. Start by saying "Hi, where's the best coffee or whatever?" and walk away.. do this a few times and then try to extend the conversations. Maybe guys will say

6) Have fun. Sometimes we take this stuff too seriously and think we always need results... aren't memories better? If you can do this with a friend and laugh about things that didn't go right it's even better. If you get rejected laugh about it! You'll stay motivated longer and still be in good company even without any results yet.

These are the steps I truly believe MUST take to get a quality experience within a few days or weeks. Good luck and all the best Skywalker!
 

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Yes, back on topic. ...
By the way, what is the purpose of this thread. What do you really want?
 
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Francisco d'Anconia said:
By the way, what is the purpose of this thread. What do you really want?

1) attention

2) to feel good about having a sex life in his mind (through creative analysis)

3) to make all the rest of us feel better that we don't have his life
 

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1) attention

2) to feel good about having a sex life in his mind (through creative analysis)

3) to make all the rest of us feel better that we don't have his life
Ummmm.... Good screen name... :up:
 
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Call_Me_Daddy said:
Any good program (with good application) should show you visible results in two or three weeks.

Minor results, but still visible. Usually strength gain.

How have you been progresing through the weights? What did you start out at and what are you at now? (You record weights, sets, reps... righ?)
In the beginning it was very difficult to life the weights with the set repeition, but now it's getting a bit easier. I'm workout three days per week for about a half hour to hour lifting weights. I'm lifting different weights depending on the set. Ranging from 20 lbs to 87.5 lbs.

I do the same exercise within the designated gym days and repeat them over and over again. You are right, minor results, still dont have the visible big muscles, but just a bit of strength.
 
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Last Man Standing said:
Hahahahahahaha, damnnnnnnnnn, are you that bad Luke such that you gave a woman a nervous breakdown? What DJ technique did you use? The "Break her down" tecnique!! Or, The "Get her when she is down " technique:D

Please tell us.
She had a nervous break-down for 10 years before she saw me. She's currently living by herself in an apartment, with her room-mate visiting once per week. She's recently called me today and wanted to know if I was taking her out and felt upset that I turned her down in favour of taking out a client. I'm only honestly interested in ****ing her because she somehow looks like an easy lay where I can get alone into her apartment if I get to know her a bit more. I was planning on asking her out for my birthday (she doesn't know it's on Wednesday). She's renting an apartment and is on disability and doesn't have much spending money, I feel like a man in control in that situation for some reason that I cant put my finger on.

She's not super attractive, but she's got the bust and if she puts out quickly then hey, got a ho to celebrate my birthday with if I entertain such thoughts.
 
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