jhonny9546
Master Don Juan
For all mature men, (write if single or married) and over the age of 25, assuming you work for part of the day and have free time after dinner or so, what do you typically do in the evenings and at nigh, on a daily basis?
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
You’re a real mature man. Based on this forum description, your son Juan prime is from ?-24 yo. Then the game changes and Godspeed to they all.Having sex.
Using drugs.
Burning the midnight oil.
But then, I'm retired.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
It's a stretch to call anyone under the age of 35 mature.For all mature men, (write if single or married) and over the age of 25, assuming you work for part of the day and have free time after dinner or so, what do you typically do in the evenings and at nigh, on a daily basis?
Can you be Mature and still be addicted to drugs and casual sex?It's a stretch to call anyone under the age of 35 mature.
Not if those things cloud your judgement in key situationsCan you be Mature and still be addicted to drugs and casual sex?
Hey, some of us actually do have our lives in check.Can you be Mature and still be addicted to drugs and casual sex?
-Work on my business
-Watch documentaries or YouTube videos
-Play Games on my phone
-Read the bible (haven't done that in a while need to do so more)
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Let's consider a 32-40 year old childless woman living in a larger city with no kids. She's gotten out of a 2+ year long relationship, taken a few months to process her emotions, and she's thinking about dating again. What's her life like?Now imagine what a mature woman does in the evening when she's invisible to a lot of men and has no kids
According to the forum, a Mature Man is anyone over 25. You have to remember this PUA stuff is aimed at guys probably 17-24?It's a stretch to call anyone under the age of 35 mature.
The forum is wrong.According to the forum, a Mature Man is anyone over 25. You have to remember this PUA stuff is aimed at guys probably 17-24?
yes... for the majority of these women, other men can have them... I'm good. I mean, most men would have sex with a woman with trashbag on her head... but few of the "good" men will commit. still in demand... the town bicycle is still in demand for some men I guess... but does the town bicycle really have "options"? I really don't think so.The Manosphere likes to claim that women are past their prime around 30-35, but that isn't reality. Women 30 or 35+ have pussies that are still in demand.
That was one of the first things that caught my eye when I came here. I saw that a mature man was 25 and over, and I was like WTF?The forum is wrong.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.