Last Man Standing
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Do you guys think anyone will ever want to marry me?
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
This is probaly the hottest thing I've read on this forum in like, ever.Fuglydude said:I think its unethical to go after chics that are hooked up, but to each his own...I've seen so much infidelity in my time, that it doesn't even bother me anymore.
I do however, stand by my value.
Gold.bigjohnson said:My thoughts are don't buy your bread and meat at the same store.
Oh, I get it just fine - I have been that "low class Preek" .And I knew what I was doing at the time and I knew that it was wrong.aliasguy said:-
I can't believe you don't get this.
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Not unless you are 6'2 with a hot ride and lots of dough. And look like Brad Pitt. :crazy:Last Man Standing said:Do you guys think anyone will ever want to marry me?
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
I agree with Jophil28, as men, it's important that we take responsibility for our actions. It's just like anything, you can find reasons to excuse anything you choose to do if you want to. You can 'pass the buck' of responsiblity, h3ll everyone does, why not?jophil28 said:Blaming the woman totally is ONLY valid if the other man does not know that she is married. IF he knows that she is married and still fvcks her , he is a participant and therefor shares accountability.
I suppose I can see the hypocritical argument you guys are making.logic1 said:After reading this thread at least I know who 's advice is worthwhile.
The mildest word I can use to describe "some" of the posters is Hyprocrites!!
I would hate to be in business with some of you guys.
Carry on.
jophil28 said:Oh, I get it just fine - I have been that "low class Preek" .And I knew what I was doing at the time and I knew that it was wrong.
Blaming the woman totally is ONLY valid if the other man does not know that she is married. IF he knows that she is married and still fvcks her , he is a participant and therefor shares accountability.
I would NEVER accept my LTR or my wife having sex with another man for ANY reason. To do so would make me a cuckold and a cuckold is not a compete or functional man.
To accept that it is OK for you or any man to have sex with a married woman sets up a moral dilemma. If you are OK with a man taking an "opportunity" with a married woman, would you object to another man screwing YOUR wife is she wanted it?
If you answer "yes", they you are a cuckold, if you answer" no" then your are a hypocrite.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
THis thread has lost it's way. The OP was wrestling with some doubts about whether he should follow up on some married woman's "invitation signals".aliasguy said:-
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But the bottom line is, the person RESPONSIBLE is the woman who's f*cking around on you. SHE'S the one I'd be (and WAS, in my case -- I divorced her) pissed at. The guy is just a guy, doing what guys do.
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jophil28 said:THis thread has lost it's way. The OP was wrestling with some doubts about whether he should follow up on some married woman's "invitation signals".
The replies have been mostly in favor of him "doing her" and using a variety of feeble justifications to rationalise his doing do..." boys will be boys.." .
"she is the problem not you ... " Her husband is an AFC ..(as if AFChood deserves infidelity) ... " If you don't , some other guy will." and the doozy of irrational womanlike thought .." You are doing the husband a favor ..".
What a load of horseshyt !"
The replies here (for the most part) focussed on apportioning blame after the fact - most of the blame went to the married woman. THis thread was NOT about who is to blame - it was about whether it was a smart idea in the first place - before the fact !
Would you guys be OK with YOUR wife (or LTR) having sex with another man. Forget the circumstances.
IF you object to that then, by extension , you cannot have sex with another man's wife - lest you become a hypocrite who lives by double standards .
Yeah , I was thinking the same thing.KontrollerX said:Why would a person thats likely gone through something similarly hurtful whose overcome all that sadness and pain, woken up to the matrix and become a DJ with a vast amount of attractive single options to choose from ever go swimming in the gutter again and lower themselves by rewarding some cheating scum with that DJ's own time and body doing to another man what has likely been done to him in the past?
Still it does not compute.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Surely there are enough single women around without tapping some AW "desperate househor ".jophil28 said:Yeah , I was thinking the same thing.
Secondly, I do believe that we all have a responsibility to hold another man's wife as "off limits" . I respect another man's marriage.
Whether he is a DJ, an AFC or a communist tree hugging vegetarian is irrelevant.
Would that include setting a "no affairs - no sex outside" rule for your wife and yourself ?aliasguy said:--
When I want to settle down, if that EVER happens, I'll do it with much more wisdom than last time.
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jophil28 said:Would that include setting a "no affairs - no sex outside" rule for your wife and yourself ?
Brad is only 5'8" tall - I look better than him andiqqi said:Not unless you are 6'2 with a hot ride and lots of dough. And look like Brad Pitt. :crazy:
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.