“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Married Woman at Work Dangling the Carrot Infront of Me

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Do you guys think anyone will ever want to marry me?
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Fuglydude said:
I think its unethical to go after chics that are hooked up, but to each his own...I've seen so much infidelity in my time, that it doesn't even bother me anymore.

I do however, stand by my value.
This is probaly the hottest thing I've read on this forum in like, ever.

Rep points to you.

<iqqi now has small crush on Fuglydude>
 

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My thoughts are don't buy your bread and meat at the same store.
Gold.

DON'T EVER FALL for it dude. It's a game and she will OWN you and whisper to the other girls how wimpy you are. If a girl you find is attractive and knows it but it's in a social setting. FINE, GO FOR IT! But not at work where your job is more important than punani.
 

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Oh, I get it just fine - I have been that "low class Preek" .And I knew what I was doing at the time and I knew that it was wrong.
Blaming the woman totally is ONLY valid if the other man does not know that she is married. IF he knows that she is married and still fvcks her , he is a participant and therefor shares accountability.
I would NEVER accept my LTR or my wife having sex with another man for ANY reason. To do so would make me a cuckold and a cuckold is not a compete or functional man.

To accept that it is OK for you or any man to have sex with a married woman sets up a moral dilemma. If you are OK with a man taking an "opportunity" with a married woman, would you object to another man screwing YOUR wife is she wanted it?
If you answer "yes", they you are a cuckold, if you answer" no" then your are a hypocrite.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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ok this is my belief system:

The women is making sure come on signs to you, she is married, this is infact her problem not yours (granted you fuc* her and her BF comes on the scene due to a possible AW who would love the drama, it's your problem too).

I have slept with many a married women, call me the sun of sata* in you want, if this goes against your thought process.

But remember one thing:
It's the women who is marred, so it is UP-TO THEM to respect there vows, if they don’t fuc* me! They will eventually fuc* some other guy who can see the women IS NOT MARRIAGE MATERIAL.

In the end the AFC chump who married the potential Fuc* material only, may wise up and dump the cheating biatc* until then, I refuse to be the smuck with moral codes of messed up belief's that stop me from tapping an as* who has no problems sucking my coc* whilst her BF or who-ever sits at home.

Women are master's of manipulation this is the strongest point, everything they do is to manipulate the male sex into thinking there shi* does not stink, from make up to charming gestures.

The chump out of all this is the poor smuck who though this women was marriage material, when it is clear she is firmly and rooted to Fuc* buddie material ONLY.

So treat her as such, i guarantee she has far more to loose then you have by her stating what has/will happened.

Also you moral righteous guys on here, you really think for one second this chick and others like her have not FUC*ED around behind the Husbands back?

Just because you SAID NO does not change what the women wants, she is not going to get a shot of moral fibre just cos some guy who is horny said no to the advances of some hot married chick who clearly wants to fuc* his brains out, she will only end up going with some other guy anyway.

I see it has doing the HUSBAND a FAVOUR maybe just maybe when she has suc*ed enough coc*s the moron will realize the women he is with is not a keeper and then he will make plans to sort is life choices out.

This women is bad news for the husband but perfect fuc* buddie material, somewhere along the line some smuck mistook her for marriage material, that to me his is own dam stupid fault, he needs to wise the fuc* up.

Me i would have been tapping that ars* along time ago.

Guys like me are NOT THE PROBLEM, you don’t blame the chocolate bar for making the chick fat, you blame that on her need to fill her fat face with it, take away the chocolate she will only stuff it with something else.

The problem is NOT MEN, stop BLAMING MEN FOR WOMEN ISSUES<<<<<<<

If this was reversed where he was married he would be told to not do it, when its the other way around the women is whiter then white, well time to open your eyes allot of women are not keepers, this is a great example of why you should fuc* married women of this nature, maybe then just maybe marriage will start to mean something when all the BOYS start being men and choose WOMEN WITH MORE SOLIDARITY.

Tap her ass, you will doing everyone a favour.

The guy will or may be hurt but at least he wont be spending the rest of his life dodging the possible bullet of:
Sexual diseases.
Paternity fraud.
Male manipulation.
Financial rape.

Unless ofc he is into groupies.

Maybe he wont wise up, but if you think this women will just gain some moral rightouse code of marriage conduct just because you said 'no' either tells me you are firmly stuck in your own self importance or you think she just had a 'whoopsie' moment.

Also from the OP post it is clear this is physical attraction, so in that we can see this girl in particuler likes her pritty boys or guys with definition.

Yes i take her advances has come on's!

Some of the replies in this thread is testiment why women are never accountable for there own shi*!

The guys who are telling him not to do are coming from the idea of:
'your trying to change the world'
Instead of coming from the better idea of:
'You can change; how you see the world working'.
 
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After reading this thread at least I know who 's advice is worthwhile.

The mildest word I can use to describe "some" of the posters is Hyprocrites!!

I would hate to be in business with some of you guys.

Carry on.
 

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jophil28 said:
Blaming the woman totally is ONLY valid if the other man does not know that she is married. IF he knows that she is married and still fvcks her , he is a participant and therefor shares accountability.
I agree with Jophil28, as men, it's important that we take responsibility for our actions. It's just like anything, you can find reasons to excuse anything you choose to do if you want to. You can 'pass the buck' of responsiblity, h3ll everyone does, why not?

I'll tell you why not, because at the end of the day, you are still responsible for your actions as a man.
 

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logic1 said:
After reading this thread at least I know who 's advice is worthwhile.

The mildest word I can use to describe "some" of the posters is Hyprocrites!!

I would hate to be in business with some of you guys.

Carry on.
I suppose I can see the hypocritical argument you guys are making.

But I loosely subscribe to the "All is fair in love and war" mentality. Meaning, when it comes to biological needs (I suppose you could argue that they are actually desires) and survival, the rules change.

If someone is standing in front of me in a fight and says he's gonna kill me but he outlines a set of rules that we both must follow, I'm not going to sit around and wait to see if he holds up to his end of the bargain, I'm going to do everything in my power to ensure my survival.

Of course it is a little different when it comes to cheating. There are no lives on the line. But I have been cheated on many times in my life, so I come to expect that is just the way it is. If everyone else is doing it to me, why would I be the guy who turns it down when it's offered to him? Two wrongs don't make a right but life isn't fair and in certain things I'm not gonna be the guy standing on the sidelines getting trampled. Well, at least if I AM gonna get trampled, I'm gonna enjoy myself on the way down.
 

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jophil28 said:
Oh, I get it just fine - I have been that "low class Preek" .And I knew what I was doing at the time and I knew that it was wrong.
Blaming the woman totally is ONLY valid if the other man does not know that she is married. IF he knows that she is married and still fvcks her , he is a participant and therefor shares accountability.
I would NEVER accept my LTR or my wife having sex with another man for ANY reason. To do so would make me a cuckold and a cuckold is not a compete or functional man.

To accept that it is OK for you or any man to have sex with a married woman sets up a moral dilemma. If you are OK with a man taking an "opportunity" with a married woman, would you object to another man screwing YOUR wife is she wanted it?
If you answer "yes", they you are a cuckold, if you answer" no" then your are a hypocrite.

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Let me put it THIS way. (And, BTW, I've been through this sh*t, and it's NOT fun.)

I would NOT be happy with the guy for doing my woman. But the promises and commitment are not his issues. If I don't know the guy, he hasn't betrayed me, like the woman has. If I DO know the guy, it's a different matter. And, if he's a "friend," well, then, friendship over.

But the bottom line is, the person RESPONSIBLE is the woman who's f*cking around on you. SHE'S the one I'd be (and WAS, in my case -- I divorced her) pissed at. The guy is just a guy, doing what guys do.

I don't see how I'm being hypocritical here, unless you think that the friend thing counts as hypocritical (I guess "my" rules include "not doing your friend's woman.")

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If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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But the bottom line is, the person RESPONSIBLE is the woman who's f*cking around on you. SHE'S the one I'd be (and WAS, in my case -- I divorced her) pissed at. The guy is just a guy, doing what guys do.


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THis thread has lost it's way. The OP was wrestling with some doubts about whether he should follow up on some married woman's "invitation signals".
The replies have been mostly in favor of him "doing her" and using a variety of feeble justifications to rationalise his doing do..." boys will be boys.." .
"she is the problem not you ... " Her husband is an AFC ..(as if AFChood deserves infidelity) ... " If you don't , some other guy will." and the doozy of irrational womanlike thought .." You are doing the husband a favor ..".

What a load of horseshyt !"

The replies here (for the most part) focussed on apportioning blame after the fact - most of the blame went to the married woman. THis thread was NOT about who is to blame - it was about whether it was a smart idea in the first place - before the fact !

Would you guys be OK with YOUR wife (or LTR) having sex with another man. Forget the circumstances.
IF you object to that then, by extension , you cannot have sex with another man's wife - lest you become a hypocrite who lives by double standards .
 

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jophil28 said:
THis thread has lost it's way. The OP was wrestling with some doubts about whether he should follow up on some married woman's "invitation signals".
The replies have been mostly in favor of him "doing her" and using a variety of feeble justifications to rationalise his doing do..." boys will be boys.." .
"she is the problem not you ... " Her husband is an AFC ..(as if AFChood deserves infidelity) ... " If you don't , some other guy will." and the doozy of irrational womanlike thought .." You are doing the husband a favor ..".

What a load of horseshyt !"

The replies here (for the most part) focussed on apportioning blame after the fact - most of the blame went to the married woman. THis thread was NOT about who is to blame - it was about whether it was a smart idea in the first place - before the fact !

Would you guys be OK with YOUR wife (or LTR) having sex with another man. Forget the circumstances.
IF you object to that then, by extension , you cannot have sex with another man's wife - lest you become a hypocrite who lives by double standards .


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I understand and accept your position here, jophil.

I simply disagree. I think that, as you say, it may be simply a question of "is it a smart idea in the first place."

If that is, in fact, the question here, then, YES, it IS a "smart idea" ----- it is (if he takes precautions against getting caught.) He owes the other guy nothing. She's the "cheater." Should he expect anything from her, or trust her, or get in a relationship with her? NO!. But should he f*ck her? YES!.

You keep asking if I'd want MY woman to f*ck around. Well, of course not, but the OTHER chick isn't "my" woman. What do I owe the other guy?

To say I "cannot" nail some chick because she's attached has NOTHING to do with my relationships with women in my life.

You can call it a double standard, you can call it hypocritical, but REMEMBER, as I've written before --- I would not hold another man at "fault" for screwing MY woman if she gave it up. (Unless he was a friend.) I would fault HER.

I really think we're not going to settle this. I believe my position is clear and consistent. You feel your position is correct. We don't agree. And that's ok.

But I'll pop that b*tch if I can; I just would NEVER trust her.

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Why would a person thats likely gone through something similarly hurtful whose overcome all that sadness and pain, woken up to the matrix and become a DJ with a vast amount of attractive single options to choose from ever go swimming in the gutter again and lower themselves by rewarding some cheating scum with that DJ's own time and body doing to another man what has likely been done to him in the past?

A DJ is the prize, a DJ does not reward bad behaviour, a DJ has no time for a lowlife piece of trash such as a cheating wife because he is worth more than that.

A DJ has options so why choose the dirtbag cheating scum when you can get with the hot single 20 something?

Out of all those options why choose dirt over gold?

It makes no sense.

Unless part of you is still AFC and feels you need to get back at the world for what it has done to you.

Anyway sure a cheating woman is responsible for her cheating too there's no doubt about it but it does take two to tango.

I can understand lesser men who would reward the cheater but a DJ?

Still it does not compute.
 

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Good points, Kontroller, but ,you see, I don't feel that I would be "rewarding" her, really, unless you count the sexual benefits she gets from a taste of me.

But I'd get benefits, too. It's not a zero-sum game.

If a hottie wants some action, I'm gonna play. It has nothing to do with my history. Well, wait, maybe it DOES. I used to be a big AFC. I believed in faithfulness, and being "true." Well, that's over. If some chick wants some action, and I'm attracted to her, well, I'm gonna nail her.

It's not really about "getting back" at anyone. I turned down ALL KINDSA tail when I was married. I remained faithful. I don't regret that. I can sleep at night knowing I did "right." But I'm single now, and I've only got so many years left to do his sh*t, and I'm gonna make the most of it.

And you can call me a "false DJ" if you want, that's ok. I didn't even know what a "DJ" WAS until I stumbled on this site. But I sure did know I had to make some changes, and I did. This site only confirmed what I had begun to discover.

I don't care about dirt or gold when it comes to just getting laid. Relationships are another matter.

I'm having fun now, and getting better every day at all this stuff. When I want to settle down, if that EVER happens, I'll do it with much more wisdom than last time.

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KontrollerX said:
Why would a person thats likely gone through something similarly hurtful whose overcome all that sadness and pain, woken up to the matrix and become a DJ with a vast amount of attractive single options to choose from ever go swimming in the gutter again and lower themselves by rewarding some cheating scum with that DJ's own time and body doing to another man what has likely been done to him in the past?

Still it does not compute.
Yeah , I was thinking the same thing.

Secondly, I do believe that we need to see another man's wife as "off limits" . I respect another man's marriage . Whether he is a DJ, an AFC or a communist tree hugging vegetarian is irrelevant.
Except I would make an exception in the case of a man who sang "My Way" in a Karaoke bar..
Ha!
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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jophil28 said:
Yeah , I was thinking the same thing.

Secondly, I do believe that we all have a responsibility to hold another man's wife as "off limits" . I respect another man's marriage.
Whether he is a DJ, an AFC or a communist tree hugging vegetarian is irrelevant.
Surely there are enough single women around without tapping some AW "desperate househor ".

( I can hear LMS revving up in the distance )
 

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When I want to settle down, if that EVER happens, I'll do it with much more wisdom than last time.

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Would that include setting a "no affairs - no sex outside" rule for your wife and yourself ?
 

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jophil28 said:
Would that include setting a "no affairs - no sex outside" rule for your wife and yourself ?

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Well, YEAH, but if she BROKE that rule, should I be upset with HER or HIM? Do you even READ what I've written?

(I've covered this above, BTW.)

I know how to be faithful, and I understand the VALUE of that faithfulness.

I keep my promises, and I expect those that make promises to me to keep them, too. I don't make promises I don't intend to keep.

I just don't think that a promise that some chick has made to some other guy has anything to do with ME.

Are my posts unclear, or something?

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Jophil makes the most sense here - and thus is correct!!
 
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iqqi said:
Not unless you are 6'2 with a hot ride and lots of dough. And look like Brad Pitt. :crazy:
Brad is only 5'8" tall - I look better than him and
I have a hot ride! But I'm trying to lower my yeast intake so I need to work on the lots of dough part!
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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