Married Woman at Work Dangling the Carrot Infront of Me

[STR8UP]

but no one here can tell me that banging some other guys woman increases their own sense of self worth and respect. a real DJ, a man spinning plates, a man with options, would not have the uncontrollable urge to bang a married woman - he would not NEED the p*ssy that badly.

1) I don't fukk to increase my self worth. I do get satisfaction from a "conquest", so to speak, but I don't see it as making me more of a man if I can sleep with more women.

2) It has nothing to do with needing anything. It has nothing to do with an uncontrollable urge.

and no offense str8up and jonwon, but one day you may find a woman that you decide to marry and have kids with. and ten years may go by and then one day you come home and find Pablo the pool boy banging your wife up the *ss.

for all the 'hey good for Pablo, he showed me my wife is a wh*re" kind of talk, you would be crushed. after 10 years of building a life with someone, i don't care of tough you are, that is going to devestate you.

I've been fukked over by a woman more than once in my day, and each time it affects me less.

Would I be "crushed" if I caught my wife screwing another guy? Well, "crushed" might be a strong word. "Disappointed" would be a little more accurate.

See, I have seen both sides of women. The side I grew up seeing before i opened my eyes, and the side that most people spend their lives denying it's existence.

Knowing the true nature of women, I will never give that much of myself that would cause me to be "crushed" by her actions. Even if I decide to make her my wife.

If the pu$$y has that much power to yank your chain you have officially put too much faith in something that a wise man knows can never be fully trusted.

If you had a 60% chance of losing your money in a stock, would you invest in it?

Do a quick google search with the words "percentage women cheating". The first link contains stats that go all across the board as to the percentage of women who cheat. At the bottom read-

"Note that the above adultry statistics of the prevalence of affairs were made more than a decade ago; so based on changes in society during the intervening years, the current percentage of the population who have had affairs is probably somewhat HIGHER. For instance, the continuing increase of women in the workplace and the increase of women having affairs on the Internet means that the numbers for women having affairs is probably similar to those for men—about 60%."

I would say that 60% is conservative guess if you factor in that women tend to be less than honest regarding such behavior. Throw in a tolerance for a variation due to the fact that no one can agree on exactly what constitutes "cheating", and one can safely conclude that the chances of a woman engaging in SOME form of sexual behavior outside of marriage are HUGE.

Just rolling the dice on those odds could be considered by some to be insane, but who doesn't want to believe that they might be the exception to the rule? That's all good and fine but if you have this knowledge going into the transaction you're either weak or stupid to not be prepared for the likelihood that you will find yourself a "victim".

Bottom line- if you are weak or stupid or romantic or whatever enough to emotionally invest yourself that much given those odds....well, I guess I DO feel sorry for you.

and i dont think a man can f*ck a married woman and still respect himself in the morning, not if he was a man with any self respect to begin with.

That's because you PERSONALLY see it as morally wrong.

these rationalizations of 'hey I don't owe anyone anything' attitudes are false bravado. Coping strategies utilized in the dating battlefield to survive all the crap you have to deal with.

and they are bullsh*t. because:

1) if some dude banged their wife, i don't care what they say here, they would consider it wrong. they would consider their wife to be in the wrong AS WELL AS the guy who banged her.

I would consider what my WIFE did as wrong, because she is the only one who is accountable to me for her actions. The other guy? Unless I know him he owes me NOTHING.

Even in my AFC days I would see some knucklehead get bent out of shape with a dude who was fukking his girl and think "What a loser".

you should feel sorry for the guy who got suckered by the two timing b*tch, not be looking to take advantage of the situation to get your rocks off.

but, im also aware that many men will never ever think this way and their rule of thumb is 'if it lets you, f*ck it."

The day the world feels sorry for me is the day I will feel sorry for the world.

now guys who are hard and not getting laid often and then some super hot married chic offers to lay them, well i'm a little more understanding since they may simple succumb to lust.

So it's understandable if the chick is hot and you are going through a dry spell?

 

[jophil28]

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Would I be "crushed" if I caught my wife screwing another guy? Well, "crushed" might be a strong word. "Disappointed" would be a little more accurate.
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That's because you PERSONALLY see it as morally wrong.

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The word "disappointed" is so convenient. It is used by folk who are are trying to deny they feelings of anger and hurt . It attempts to sound so much more mature and controlled than expressing your rage and frustation at the crap treatment that you have received at the hands of someone else.
Get real dude, if you came home and Pablo was doing your wife of ten years you would be in white hot rage at them both . I somehow cannot see you sitting down with him after he showered and telling him how grateful you are for him exposing your wife to be a wh0re and then shaking his hand .

"Disappointed " is what i get when I burn the toast or get a flat on the freeway.


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Having a PERSONAL moral objection is the best and ultimately ONLY legitimate reason for modifying our behavior.

 

[guru1000]

I think this post is just a question of "Rules of Integrity". I don't think either side to this issue lacks Integrity, but each side has different rules of what Integrity constitutes. That being said, if one is in accordance to their "Rules of Integrity" , neither side loses self worth or value in their choice.

To say what is right and wrong is clearly a perception of one's life experiences and upbringing.

Most people mourn in the death of a family member but some societies have a celebration as they just moved to a better place.

There are two sides to every coin , but the bottomline is: Be true to your integrity, for that is what defines you.

 

[aliasguy]

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Some say 'philosophy' is just thinking up bad reasons to believe in something that you already believe for other bad reasons.

I think this applies to many posts in this thread.

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[aliasguy]

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To elaborate on the above -----

Those that feel f*cking a married woman is "wrong" pull out all sorta reasons why you "shouldn't" do it (someone might do it to you; the guy might find out and come after you; you're insecure and weak, etc.) If they think it's WRONG, then they think it's WRONG. No further elaboration is necessary. I dunno why they feel so strongly about convincing others of this.

The "Pablo" scenario has been beaten into the ground, and answered repeatedly by myself and others. The "you wouldn't like it" argument has been brought up over and over again, and, as above, answered directly by at least three of us. The "you can't commit an act you wouldn't want committed against you" crap has been refuted more than once (--I'M not committing it, SHE is.--)

But these answers just don't sink into the minds of those on the other side. And this is because, for whatever reason (strong moral viewpoint on this issue, or "fear," or whatever), they just cling to their position. AND THAT'S OK. They can see it how they wish. I understand; you believe that it is WRONG for me to f*ck a married woman. I accept your view.

But, good grief, do they ever PERSIST. It's as if they CANNOT tolerate another viewpoint. It's almost like trying to discuss various ecumenical issues with hardcore fundamentalist Christians (who are generally wonderful people, you just can't talk about other kinds of spirituality with them without a big mess.)

And I guess, those on the other side of this issue will say to me: "Yes, but you keep on defending YOUR point, too." But I'm not trying to tell YOU what YOU can or cannot do. I'm just defending my position that I can do this, and I will do it.

As I've posted above in this thread, I respect others viewpoints. I may not agree, but I try to understand. It's when I'm told that I CANNOT do something while expecting certain other, unrelated things, that I get frustrated.

I honestly LISTEN to the arguments here , and I try to learn from them.

But when my own eyes see, and my own experience (and the experience of others) reveals to me certain things (e.g., "People cheat"), then that I cannot ignore.

And no matter HOW much someone protests with "shoulds," and "oughta's," and "you CAN'T's", I'm gonna believe my own eyes, and accept the real world for how it is, and move forward in a way that's best for me, and best for those close to me.




And THAT is why I'm gonna nail whoever I want, unless they're involved with a friend or relative.... (sounds weird, to put it that way, but there it is.)

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[aliasguy]

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And, perhaps, I've just proved the point in my own post about "philosophy" above.

But i don't think so.

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[jonwon]

If you have to control men to not fuc* your wife, I suggest you trade in the wife, not convert the males of the society, she will just get it anyway.

You moral guys really do not get this do you?

If i stated i was playing devils advocate and have never fuc*ed a married women would that change things?

no you still think women are not accountable for there actions.

I pity you I really do, its guys like you that will be raped in courts across the land as you forgive every discrepancy of the poor creature who happened to be harassed by the bad bad male of the species.

Joker i am surprised you have not got the true message of my post, i am very surprised.

You cant change the world, but you can replace the cheating whor* you so vermintly revere that cant do no wrong.

To even think about this issue is a no brainer.

i will tell you a story (not that you moral guys will fuc*ing listen you too pig headed and stuck in your 'control' idea to 'understand').

I dated a girl she used to have 'many' male friends and did questionable acts that made me think she was cheating.

It turned out she accumulated male friends left right and centre, eventually i suspected one of them to be more then just a friend, oh how i hated that guy, how i wanted to smash his head in and tell him to back off from my precious little possession.

How i nagged at the women to tell her the guys is after more then just friendship.

eventually i won through, it came with alot of consequences, i was labelled jealous controlling and possessive and rightly so, i tried to stop a skank from getting what she wanted.

So eventually i found out she had 'other' male friends after and how i hated each one, always always blaming the guy always making excuses for her, always thinking she does not know whats going on.

How i wanted to 'control' those guys to not take advantage of my precious prize possession.

until one day i had enough, i realized, the source of the problem:

the source of the problem was not the guys, the source of the problem was the fact i was with a skank who loved male attention a little too much, who lied to me about her interactions and did alot of questionable stuff.

I then realized i was the one who was STUPID for allowing myself to be so easily manipulated by some skank whor*.

Do i blame the men.

I THANK THE MEN, now i am no longer with this cheating lying bitc* and i can move on to better things in my life.

Hence it is never the mans fault the women always always HAS A CHOICE.

If she is being sexed up she ALLOWS THAT TO HAPPEN.

If you dont understand the above scenario, it will be what will happen to you, as you project all her fuc* up's to the wrong source.

If she cheats that is HER CHOICE, no man can force a women to FUC* them, no amount of seduction can force a women to FUC* you unless secretly she wants to fuc* you anyway and CHEAT on her partner!

I personally think marriage is a joke, the fact that questions like this proves that marriage is nothing but a big fat fuc*ing waste of time.

Lol and still you dont understand.

Guys like you remind me of guys i see in bars that do this:

" hes chatting my bird up " after the bird goes over to the guy.
" He's kissing my bird " after the girl sticks her mouth on his.
" Hes fuc*ing my bird " after the girl gets into the guys bed and peels her own panties off.

You need to listen to yourselves from where i and others are coming from, you need to listen before you keep excusing women for there fuc* ups.

Stop blaming men.

To know this stuff can empower you to become a man that can keep a women from straying, not bury your moral head in the sand and blame every external source, whilst she comes home and does Tonsal tennis with some-other guys spunk on her teeth, with could very much happen.

Wake the fuc* up!


Moral or not, thats your problem!

Deal with it.

 

[dietzcoi]

It's all about the person you want to be.

We have real questionable types on here, with no self-respect or moral compass.

Sorry for them

For me, I think it is wrong to fukk another man's wife. It is disrespectful. You want respect, you have to respect others.

Some of these guys will wind up shot. Will I cry about them or convict the men who shot them, if I am on the jury? NO

Sorry: You make your bed, now lie in it.

Read Marcus Aurelius... Have a life of meaning.

Dietzcoi

 

[bigjohnson]

While I wouldn't do it myself I'm not gonna condemn someone because of it, as long as they have no relationship to me. The girl made the commitment and then broke it. On the other hand there are real concerns with regard to personal safety and values, and I think a proclivity to screw around with someone else's wife generally does not reflect well on the character of a man.

So yeah, it's in bad taste and dangerous.

YMMV, of course.

 

[STR8UP]

I then realized i was the one who was STUPID for allowing myself to be so easily manipulated by some skank whor*.

But what about a woman who cheats without first giving any signs?

That's a tough one.

And that's the WILDCARD here. The card that is the basis for much of my philosophies and theories and conclusions about women.

If this happens were you stupid for marrying a skank wh0re?

Well, 95% of the time in hindsight you will see that there WERE signs. But what about that other 5%?

My point is that with women you NEVER KNOW.

 

[DavenJuan]

originally posted by STR8UP
But what about a woman who cheats without first giving any signs?

That's a tough one.

And that's the WILDCARD here. The card that is the basis for much of my philosophies and theories and conclusions about women.

If this happens were you stupid for marrying a skank wh0re?

Well, 95% of the time in hindsight you will see that there WERE signs. But what about that other 5%?

My point is that with women you NEVER KNOW

I have been in relationships where i thought i was never being cheated on ...WRONG.

i have been in relationships were i thought i would never cheat..WRONG

i know married ppl who have cheated..

bottom line is...i truely believe that if i cheat, then that means that i was not 100 percent satisfied..

if im CHEATED ON...then she was not getting what she wanted from me at 100 percent.

thats the way the cookie crumbles

 

[Last Man Standing]

Jophil - there are those on this forum who have a moral compass and have values and principles that benefit humanity and those who hate good and decency - let those who reject good die in their own vomit!!!