"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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If I think about the thing that would most help us grow as men and be of help to us in our lives, it's a "real" group of people.
Come to this video; there are many online communities that want to help men be "men" in the truest sense.
It would be interesting to discuss here the real communities you've found of men you've tried, which are solid groups, and which you can define as truly healthy and excellent for helping you surround yourself with real men who help you succeed in life.

What are they?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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the groups that focus on something other than this. if you go with the flow they like, will bring you along.
 

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I find mma groups, or taking something as simple as morning cycling can help strengthen the bonding process. Lol Did you know in India men who are great friends hold hands in the street, as a sign of masculine friendship and gesture. It’s not seen as gay.
 

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I was in a group of men at church about 15 years ago that was around overcoming personal obstacles and how or when faith began to play a role in the process. Some great connections were made that persist to this day. I can call any of them at any time regardless of how long it’s been and ask for anything. I took leadership positions in it at a young age. I was one of a handful of guys under the age 40. I would recommend.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I was in a group of men at church about 15 years ago that was around overcoming personal obstacles and how or when faith began to play a role in the process. Some great connections were made that persist to this day. I can call any of them at any time regardless of how long it’s been and ask for anything. I took leadership positions in it at a young age. I was one of a handful of guys under the age 40. I would recommend.
Pretending not to notice the avatar lmao. Solid post.
 

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I was in a group of men at church about 15 years ago that was around overcoming personal obstacles and how or when faith began to play a role in the process. Some great connections were made that persist to this day. I can call any of them at any time regardless of how long it’s been and ask for anything. I took leadership positions in it at a young age. I was one of a handful of guys under the age 40. I would recommend.
Damn almost pissed my pants looking at your profile picture :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 

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I find mma groups, or taking something as simple as morning cycling can help strengthen the bonding process. Lol Did you know in India men who are great friends hold hands in the street, as a sign of masculine friendship and gesture. It’s not seen as gay.
Clearly a cultural thing. Like it isn't gay for guys to hug here - as long as it's a manly hug, with maybe a good slap or two on the shoulder. :)
 

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But somehow/where you've to find em
if you’re a loner, this website is a great resource. If you’re a little bit on the religious, Conservative side, may I suggest The Christ is King forum which are the members of Roosh’s old forum which he deleted. If you’re a little bit on the lefty, liberal side I recommend ‘ The Hip forums’ which consists of hipsters like myself who talk about a vast array of topics.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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