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Get my youth out of my system before the end of this year.
"The worst thing that can happen to a man is he becomes civilized"

- David Goggins

"We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing."

- From the movie Tag

Don't interpret these things to mean 'never settle down' or 'always be a player' or whatever. But consider them with a less extreme lens.

I don't think it is youth that you need to get out of your system. It is a desire to be validated by others - which is immature. So I'm curious what you'll answer too @LiveYourDream 's last post.

And as far as this potential wife... Read more on this site. Specifically on letting the woman push for exclusivity. You are wanting to 'get the youth out' so you can attempt to marry a girl whom you barely know and, oddly, painted a failure of a future with.
 

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I know that I have achieved the goal when: I feel that I no longer must compensate for not being socially unsuccessful decades ago.
Please share more detail and explanation about the history and feelings behind the bolded above.
Because I have a desire to be influential, as far back as I could remember. As a little kid I remember being a lot smarter, but also thinking differently and even as a little kid I thought my "place" was to be an authority figure. At the age of 19, I began reading heavily into the philosophy of of Objectivism, including Ayn Rand's non-fiction books and Leonard Peikoff's books and audio lectures. I also picked up on Julian Jayne's theory on his Bicameral Mind theory. Since then I promoted the principle of individual authority over external authority as a corollary of the principle of acting in one's own self-interest. I noticed that people acted out by other's authority impulsively and I felt both superior and the calling to teach people the principle of self-authority.

So in short, I always believed deep down that my place was sort of "above" everyone else. I had a very difficult time in relating to other people. I was physically active and was loaded with hormones and wanted to party and fvck about half the girls in my classes in high school and university. No matter what I did, I was told that I came off as "too aggressive" "crazy" "weird" "rude" "self-centered" or at least I was told. To make things worse, I had a difficult time understanding things that other people understood about social norms readily; to this day, I don't understand politeness for example, I know how to be polite, but it feels like I am lying to people when I do it. I also don't read facial expressions very well, which I have gotten better at over time.

My desires of my youth have not gone away. I still lust after the same girls I did when I was a teenager and early 20's, and still want party with a lack of maturity. The problem is, is that people have these expectations of people in age groups. From as best as I can tell, the reason for the expectations are that people attribute certain values to age groups and that by disregarding those expectations that it diminishes the values of them. I know I attribute certain values to youth, so I am just as guilty as other people in their expectations on principle.


I know that I have achieved the goal when: the anger of the past goes away
Please share more detail and explanation about the history and feelings behind the bolded above. Describe the anger and/or even rage please. And any other feelings with it??
Any time I see younger people having a good time, it reminds me of what I am missing or have missed by in large. I feel like I deserve to have a good time with young women and party with a lack of maturity too.

Rejection=shame
Acceptance=pride

I don't live for other people.
Consider these... Do they match???
Yes. I want values from other people by exchange of my values. I acquire values by my own volition. And also let me be more specific. Rejection by older people doesn't mean anything to me, as long as that person has nothing to offer me. If the person had something to offer me, then it's more of a hassle to get what I want from someone else. For younger people it's different; because I need certain values from them and I don't have a lot of time left to get them. Also it reminds me of my past. So the rejection is a reminder of my failures when I was younger, which I think is wrong on the part of those people and I deserved to be treated better, despite not conforming to the b.s. pop-culture.


I know that I have achieved the goal when:
  • When I am invited to social gatherings by high status 18-24-year olds.
  • When I am surrounded by popular kids that look to me as if I have high market value with the young ladies, that also go to me because of my physical and social attributes.
I don't live for other people.
Consider these... Do they match???
Yes. Because I would achieve these values by my own productivity.


Be radically honest with yourself. Deeply consider... Is that ^^ actually true??? What do your actions say???
Yes. 100%
I don't need the validation of any one person per say. If anything, my disregard of social norms I would think would be evidence of me not living for other people.
 
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"The worst thing that can happen to a man is he becomes civilized"

- David Goggins
Quotes are cute but they should not substitute for your own thinking process. Also, that thought is meaningless without context. Consider the following two perspectives:

"Being 'civilized' is bad because it domesticates man and turns him into a slave."
"Being 'civilized' is good because it frees man from men."

"We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing."

- From the movie Tag
Age is whatever you think it is in your own context. Of course the medial field has not defined aging as a disease yet so our bodies break down over time.

I don't think it is youth that you need to get out of your system. It is a desire to be validated by others...
No. I want young pvssy and friends between 18-21ish on my own terms.

And as far as this potential wife... Read more on this site. Specifically on letting the woman push for exclusivity. You are wanting to 'get the youth out' so you can attempt to marry a girl whom you barely know and, oddly, painted a failure of a future with.
I'm realistic when it comes to women. Even 'happy' marriages are work. And for the record, I doubt you know anything significantly more than I do. I knew about letting women push for exclusivity a long time ago.
 

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Since you started this thread I wondered whether you were just a long historied troll here (on/off since 2008) that was resurfacing once again. The jury is undecided. I wanted to be fair/kind so I also considered that you might actually be genuine and just have a lot more beneath the surface that needs to be addressed. Thus the barage of questions from me, to learn more.
hahahaha! I promise you that I'm not a troll) I appreciate you taking the time to learn more about me.

The very idea that you would be willing marry this girl, just a month after she arrives in the States, contradicts everything taught on SoSuave, IMHO. The idea of a 19 year old virgin becoming your wife, to your 35 years, may sound ideal. Be centered in reality. It is still crucial to look after your own best intrests along the way!

Being willing to marry her, after a month here, just so you can have sex with her? That is a choice/consideration made by a man who is NOT thinking straight. Don't be that man! The fact that you would even consider it a possibility, that alone conveys to me that you are way out of balance. I understand desperate peole do desperate things. Don't be one! Be better than that!!! Get yourself straightened out. Make that your focus now, your number one priority. Get yourself rock solid. You will be glad you did.
I honestly don't expect the sex to be that good with her. She didn't even know how to kiss until I kissed her a few times, and even then she's terrible at it) She is shy and reserved, especially with regards to sex. She reminds me of people born in the 1930's here in the USA which spawned the 50's generation. It actually makes me wonder why she has little experience with men. I have asked her this several times, and she says that men who she considers her peers are not serous enough with her and thus she never got involved. She's average looking for Russian standards and would be above average for modern American standards.

I don't feel any desperation for this Russian girl. I feel a little bit of desperation for getting my youth experiences since I don't have much time left.
 
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Quotes are cute but they should not substitute for your own thinking process. Also, that thought is meaningless without context. Consider the following two perspectives:

"Being 'civilized' is bad because it domesticates man and turns him into a slave."
"Being 'civilized' is good because it frees man from men."



Age is whatever you think it is in your own context. Of course the medial field has not defined aging as a disease yet so our bodies break down over time.



No. I want young pvssy and friends between 18-21ish on my own terms.


I'm realistic when it comes to women. Even 'happy' marriages are work. And for the record, I doubt you know anything significantly more than I do. I knew about letting women push for exclusivity a long time ago.
Alright, well since you've got it all figured out and wanna be a weirdo by faking going to college:

Be charismatic, have your own opinion and own it. People always gravitate towards that. Women and friends alike.

Being popular is simply the result of a lot of people liking you. So meet a lot of people. How are you going to do that as a college kid that's not actually in college...idk. I'm still working on meeting people and I'm in college so I imagine your challenge is greater. But it seems the fastest way to meet a lot of people is to be a part of a large social group/club where you can meet plenty of people regularly.

If you see a group of people, go introduce yourself.

Being in a frat isn't the solution. Being cool with the guys in the frat is. It's less phony anyways. Then maybe they'll invite you to parties. One thing you're not going to be able to do that a lot of actual college students can is just meeting people in class. Forming study groups leads to a bigger social circle.

But with all that considered... I wouldn't do this if I were you. It's odd. It's weird. Sure don't care what other people think but you're unnecessarily setting yourself up for failure. As soon as someone in your social circle figures you out... Poof. But as I said earlier, you seem set in your way and have it all figured out so Godspeed.

I didn't contextualize the quotes because I left it to your interpretation. And allowed you to think about what they mean to you. Instead you turned it into an English class so whatever.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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My girlfriend from overseas. I've known her for a year and a half.
How desperate does one have to be to get into a relationship with someone thousands of miles away that you bang once or twice a year?
 

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Here's a thought:

You could be an advisor to a student club. Lmao.
 
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OP it seems like you are basing things on a lot of hypotheticals regrading this 19yr old girl who it doesn’t seem like you spent any real time with (like a consistent year to see really how things will be). The only time you spent with her was in her own country. Now a hot 19 yr old virgin is coming to a western country to be with a 35 yr old man who wants to party it up like he’s her age, before she gets here.

It’s going to take you time to infiltrate a college aged group to the point where you are ‘in’ with the group. If that goes as well as you hope, do you think you will honestly be able to just drop all that when she arrives? Because it seems to me your focus is more on being that 20yr old college stud then being married, and this 19 yr old is more like a reserve trophy piece for when you no longer can be that college stud.

Also whose to say she doesn’t dump you as soon as she arrives in the US? She’s already there at that point right, if that’s her goal. And maybe it is, but you’re too focused on the college stud dream to see that?

I just don’t see this going well for you to be honest. Why not just spend more time with Russian girl dating her but not committing to anything with no timelines for bringing her over, while trying this college because you may feel differently in a year when you see how your college plan works out.
 

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Alright, well since you've got it all figured out and wanna be a weirdo by faking going to college:
That's my idea and I think it's a good one.

Being popular is simply the result of a lot of people liking you. So meet a lot of people. How are you going to do that as a college kid that's not actually in college...idk. I'm still working on meeting people and I'm in college so I imagine your challenge is greater. But it seems the fastest way to meet a lot of people is to be a part of a large social group/club where you can meet plenty of people regularly.
Yep that's it.

If you see a group of people, go introduce yourself.
I do that with some success.

Being in a frat isn't the solution. Being cool with the guys in the frat is. It's less phony anyways. Then maybe they'll invite you to parties. One thing you're not going to be able to do that a lot of actual college students can is just meeting people in class. Forming study groups leads to a bigger social circle.
I've done this before. It's good advice though.

But with all that considered... I wouldn't do this if I were you. It's odd. It's weird. Sure don't care what other people think but you're unnecessarily setting yourself up for failure. As soon as someone in your social circle figures you out... Poof. But as I said earlier, you seem set in your way and have it all figured out so Godspeed.
Well it can't be any worse then giving up from the start.

I didn't contextualize the quotes because I left it to your interpretation. And allowed you to think about what they mean to you. Instead you turned it into an English class so whatever.
I hate ambiguity
 

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How desperate does one have to be to get into a relationship with someone thousands of miles away that you bang once or twice a year?
I'm not desperate when it comes to long term relationships and she's a virgin. She happens to be a lot better than any of the girls in my area.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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OP it seems like you are basing things on a lot of hypotheticals regrading this 19yr old girl who it doesn’t seem like you spent any real time with (like a consistent year to see really how things will be). The only time you spent with her was in her own country. Now a hot 19 yr old virgin is coming to a western country to be with a 35 yr old man who wants to party it up like he’s her age, before she gets here.

It’s going to take you time to infiltrate a college aged group to the point where you are ‘in’ with the group. If that goes as well as you hope, do you think you will honestly be able to just drop all that when she arrives? Because it seems to me your focus is more on being that 20yr old college stud then being married, and this 19 yr old is more like a reserve trophy piece for when you no longer can be that college stud.

Also whose to say she doesn’t dump you as soon as she arrives in the US? She’s already there at that point right, if that’s her goal. And maybe it is, but you’re too focused on the college stud dream to see that?

I just don’t see this going well for you to be honest. Why not just spend more time with Russian girl dating her but not committing to anything with no timelines for bringing her over, while trying this college because you may feel differently in a year when you see how your college plan works out.
I think your concerns are fair, and I think if I were someone else looking at me, as someone who does not know me, I would think the same way.

I think she would be too scared to leave me.
 

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I'm not desperate when it comes to long term relationships and she's a virgin. She happens to be a lot better than any of the girls in my area.
Hahahaaha....the lies we tell ourselves and the fantasies we create within our own minds.
 

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If you were me, would you do anything different yhan what is already in my action plan in order to become the popular guy at school? If so, then what and why
 
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I think your concerns are fair, and I think if I were someone else looking at me, as someone who does not know me, I would think the same way.

I think she would be too scared to leave me.
Thinking is not knowing. Lots of stories here of guys who were totally surprised they got dumped by a girl and didn’t see it coming.

Not trying to make you paranoid but be mindful and get to really know her before committing to marrying her.
 
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And considering that you want to mess around with other women first, while technically still with her and her assuming you’re being faithful, she clearly doesn’t know you that well either lol.

This is like a bad episode of 90 Day Fiancé.
 

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And considering that you want to mess around with other women first, while technically still with her and her assuming you’re being faithful, she clearly doesn’t know you that well either lol.

This is like a bad episode of 90 Day Fiancé.
I appreciate your concern, seriously.
 

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Okay, here is some of what I am going to do. I'm going to take an online class and then join an inter-fraternity club, which does sets stuff up for fraternities. I'm also going to play as many sports as my schedule allows me to.
 

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"Since then I promoted the principle of individual authority over external authority as a corollary of the principle of acting in one's own self-interest. I noticed that people acted out by other's authority impulsively and I felt both superior and the calling to teach people the principle of self-authority."

IMHO, somewhere along your journey and your striving not to be influenced by, or to submit to external authority it appears you have put blinders on yourself. You may be aware and you may be not. You fight to maintain your viewpoint, without seeing beyond it, whether you realize it or not. You are limiting yourself and your perception. Rather than stepping OUT OF your viewpoint, expanding your perception, and REALLY considering what others here see, in your behavior and choices, it seems that you keep your blinders on and directly or indirectly, declare what is not in the limited scope of your blinders, as not so, or irrelevant, so to speak. You seem to think it has no relevance to you, as it is outside your tunnel vision. You are mistaken.

While that may keep yourself, on track with your goals and proud of yourself for not being influenced by authority, other than your own, you are failing to see the costs and pitfalls that are right around you, in your blind spots. You have tunnel vision. You are not seeing the picture as those of us, without YOUR blinders on, see it. I am not sharing this as a judgement. I am saying this to awaken you to the realization. You are moving forward with huge pot holes and sink holes next to your feet but you act as if they are not so, as long as you look forward and refuse to look down and see/acknowledge them. Or your blinders are so ingrained that you simply can't see beyond them right now.

I'll point out some of the disparity I see.

I asked you to compare statements that in my view directly contradicted each other. I expected it to be obvious to you. It wasn't. You in fact saw and justified the exact opposite of what I was hoping you would awaken to, beyond your blinders.

I asked you to compare YOUR statement of "I don't live for others." with some other things you had also written.



Consider these... Do they match???

What I see without your blinders...are statements by someone who VERY MUCH CARES what others think of him. THE OPINIONS OF OTHERS (especially 18-24 year old, popular college kids) is what is currently driving your choices, your emotions and your feelings of self worth. If one rejects you, you feel shame. Rather than their opinion, being their own, and a reflection of THEM and NOT YOU, you SEE IT AS A DETERMINANT OF YOUR VALUE. If they accept you, you feel pride. If they reject you, you feel shame. YOU have chosen to put yourself at the mercy of OTHER PEOPLE'S FEELINGS AND THOUGHTS, AS THE DECIDER OF YOUR VALUE.

That is a crazy-making way to live your life. If people are in a good mood and like you than you feel good. If people are having a crappy day (unrelated to you even) and they are less than positive and you FEEL rejected, YOU EXPERIENCE shame!!! That is a REALLY, REALLY, REALLY big deal! Their feelings and projections are a reflection of them.

YOUR OWN alignment, with YOUR OWN values and actions creates CONGRUENCE within you, that creates TRUE PRIDE.

Subjecting your self to the whims of other peoples' thoughts and feelings in random moments of their life, as a determining factor of your value, is a roller coaster YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER. It has more to do with the other people and their own filters, history and emotions, than truly anything about you. It does NOT deserve to be on the pedestal you have placed it upon. They don't truly know you! They don't! They know see you as the conglomeration of their projected stuff upon you, in a moment of whatever came before, in their experience, all piled upon that and then declared as you, in some interaction. You are simply the receiver of their projections. In your experience, you are choosing for their "stuff" to determine your self-value, as in if you feel pride or shame. SERIOUSLY!

Drop any feeling of needing to be defensive. I am not attacking. I am simply trying to raise the shade on one of your blinders so you can see what you are actions are conveying. Let the ego defense go.

Look. See. Consider. That's what I and others read in what you have shared. YOUR SELF VALUE is NOT CURRENTLY about YOUR VALUES and YOUR ACTIONS and YOUR CONGRUENCE with them. It is chasing/seeking the approval/validation of a special target audience. 18-24 year old POPULAR KIDS. The approval of "those kids" and declaration and acceptance of you is what you seek. YOU WANT FOR THEM TO ADMIRE YOU and FOR THEM TO SEE YOU AS, "AS GOOD AS THEM," PREFERABLY ----EVEN BETTER THAN THEM. You do!

Not attacking. Drop any defensiveness. Consider. You have far more to gain from looking with open eyes than looking with blinders on.

I get that in a weird way it feels like life and death, that there is this intense drive in you to GAIN AND RECEIVE THEIR APPROVAL AND ADMIRATION! It is undeniable. It is all over your posts directly or indirectly. Hold back the defensiveness. Be smart. Consider it. You can declare it irrelevant or not applicable, without looking at it. What you will miss is that you have given control of your self worth and your sense of satisfaction, to nameless strangers, you have never even met yet. You are on a mission to feel accepted, by strangers! I get you will feel driven to respond and argue. I am not here for that. I am not interested in that. There is no right and wrong. It's your life and you have choices. I am simply suggesting you pull off your blinders and REALLY CONSIDER THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN YOUR POWER AWAY TO STRANGERS!

Maybe, just maybe...WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR...REALLY...IS TO TAKE YOUR OWN POWER BACK????

I contend that is really where you feel off-balance.

You think those young popular kids can somehow grant it back to you and then you will feel better about yourself and heal what did not go the way you wanted earlier in your life. What happens when a different clique of young popular kids gives you a snotty look or laughs in your direction the next day, next year, in ten years??? You will always feel powerless to how they perceive you....UNTIL YOU CHOOSE TO TAKE YOUR POWER BACK!!!!

UNTIL YOU CHOOSE....YES CHOOSE....TO REALIGN YOUR SELF VALUE, WITH YOUR OWN UNCONDITIONAL LOVING,
...AND WITH THE CONGRUENCE YOU FEEL, BETWEEN YOUR OWN VALUES AND ACTIONS.

YOU THINK THEY HAVE THE POWER TO SET YO FREE. IT'S AN ILLUSION. THEY CAN'T GIVE YOU YOUR POWER BACK. YOU TAKE IT BACK. YOU BURST THE BUBBLE OF THE ILLUSION. YOU CHOOSE TO...OR YOU DON'T.


I think you are chasing a mirage trying to find and gain self approval through the approval of 18-24 popular college kids. You won't find it there. You can come back and post a response below where declare that it is not so that it is not what you are looking for, in your interactions with them. It will be an empty declaration. Those will be words of your ego not wanting to be perceived as less than your ideal self. Get over it. Everyone here is human and has their own sh!t so to speak. You have yours. Pretending you don't isn't going to clean it up or make it stink any less. It will simply keep you on the same merry-go-round, going up and down, in circles, never really getting anywhere.

Consider that perhaps there is whole big life for you, off that merry-go-round. Consider taking YOUR power back and what life could feel like, waking up every day, lined up inside yourself, feeling great and interacting with the world that way.

Opportunity is yours. Life without those blinders is far bigger than the merry-go-round. Lots of other rides and fun to be had, in this life. Taking your power back means giving up that story. You may be able to see it and do it. You may not yet. I am offering it up, in case this helps you to see it.


Having your self worth be at the whim of strangers or simply people outside of you, is chasing a mirage. You will never feel truly satisfied. Life will you by before you know it.

Food for thought.
Wishing you the best.
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Are you a woman? I’m not bashing you, just asking.

I don’t have time to reply to right now because I’m at work. I will partially reply and then reply again later.

To clarify, you are saying that the situation has authority over me. Here’s my initial thoughts:

  • Regardless if the situation or desire has authority over me or not, it does not change the fact that I desire that outcome. I’m going to have most of the day today to think about this. As you predicted, I’m going to initially disagree, and I will tell you why I do (or I might think about this and agree with you) later.
  • I can control of kind of relationships I want as an adult.
  • There’s nothing wrong with my goal morally.
  • The goal is valuable, reinforced by the fact that others in that age range want it.
  • The goal is achievable, evidence by the fact that people achieve it.

I like the way you are questioning my motivations. I like it when people challenge me, and I also like it to play devil’s advocate.
 
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