I've done a search on Body Language and there's a ton of threads on the subject but I noticed that some threads say when sitting "You should lean back" when talking, while another says "You should lean forward." Which one is it? What if you're eating dinner and talking at some restaurant, you can't lean back, right? LOL. Wouldn't leaning forward with eye contact, smile and stimulating convo work better?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Lean in, or Lean back???
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Teflon_Mcgee
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Just be relaxed, bro.
If you lean back with any tension in your body you have failed at demonstrating good body language. If you lean forward with tension you have failed.
Body language is very important but worrying about leaning forward vs. back is such a waste. I don't care what Style and Mystery say.
A relaxed, confidant posture will win every time. Of course, I generally lean back.
If you lean back with any tension in your body you have failed at demonstrating good body language. If you lean forward with tension you have failed.
Body language is very important but worrying about leaning forward vs. back is such a waste. I don't care what Style and Mystery say.
A relaxed, confidant posture will win every time. Of course, I generally lean back.
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Get your inner game together, and these minor details will take care of themselves.
Oldboy
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Second that.
Was on a coffee date a couple weeks ago, and noticed I was leaning in a lot, she was leaning back. Hmm. Realized I was trying too hard in the conversation as well.
So I started leaning back. And she started leaning in. And she started to work harder in the conversation. Innerestin'...
Of course, the best is when you're both leaning in, you're in your own little shared world and everything else is shut out. Get that vibe going, lay down some kino, and it's on.
Well, it's Saturday night, and I'm off. The girls are out there!
Totally agree. You can decorate a house as much as you like, but if it has no foundation it'll fall apart anyway."You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Remulak
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lean with it, rock with it