"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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This sounds exhausting as all hell! Wouldn’t going to a location with legal prostitution be far more efficient with your time, money, and mind?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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This sounds exhausting as all hell! Wouldn’t going to a location with legal prostitution be far more efficient with your time, money, and mind?
This thread is insightful because it is a realistic view into what it takes to get laid as a man who approaches strangers mainly. App swipers also have an exhausting process too.
 

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This sounds exhausting as all hell! Wouldn’t going to a location with legal prostitution be far more efficient with your time, money, and mind?
Exhausting but at the end of the day, super worth it. In recent months and even when the thread started, I just realized how much baggage I was coming into the game with. The so called wingmen I had were holding me back for the most part barring exceptions and really messing with my vibe and outcomes. I had a lot of negative influences in my life at the time to truly hit my ceiling. It really shows you how much baggage men in general who do game and struggle with women really have.

The past few months have been transformative and this game journey has been one of the most fulfilling things ever in my life. There are very few things on the planet that can change a man as much as his quest to genuinely get good with women, especially in a competitive environment like Miami which is full of flakes, fakes, and is overall a frustrating dating market. However, sniffing success here has been fulfilling in my game journey when I have had success.

I feel for men who do not go through this journey with game. You will never find and learn more about yourself, improve, and truly learn how to cut out trash from your life than when you do game. Lately, it has felt great doing so since I have broken free from pickup groups and communities. My experiences are testament to the fact that 98% of PUAs and PUA groups out there work against men in terms of helping them get laid.
 

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This is a modification of an older ideas I read about in the 2000s. The idea might even be older than that.

With night game, there was some common wisdom to use Friday and Saturday nights to find new options and use the other nights of the week for early stage dates. Women had to earn their way into getting a prime Friday/Saturday night slot.
Yup. I am also going to start a hobby which pushes me physically so my schedule is likely going to get tighter. Not starting it now but will soon. Going to end up having a lot on my plate in the coming months but I am becoming excited for the fall here. A busy life IMO is a life well lived but you know me, I am going to make time for my homies on here unless this entire forum falls apart. Pretty sure @BackInTheGame78 @Serenity @logicallefty @Atom Smasher and others won't let that happen though.
 

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This thread is insightful because it is a realistic view into what it takes to get laid as a man who approaches strangers mainly. App swipers also have an exhausting process too.
I think that when your process and system is fixed, you can potentially have consistent results but to get there, you just need to lose lots of baggage. Guys come into the game with so much baggage such as toxic beliefs, garbage wingmen, advice from trash coaches, and in order to have success, you need to lose that and become ruthlessly process and results driven. It gets me how so many men wander around aimlessly for years and show little improvement. The same old going out weekend after weekend to spam approach and having very little to show for it because they never improved.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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ruthlessly process and results driven.
Yes!

It gets me how so many men wander around aimlessly for years and show little improvement. The same old going out weekend after weekend to spam approach and having very little to show for it because they never improved.
Most men who study and "practice" Game see very little in the way of improvement as compared to being an unaware, blue pill, Average Frustrated Chump.
 

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Yup. I am also going to start a hobby which pushes me physically so my schedule is likely going to get tighter. Not starting it now but will soon. Going to end up having a lot on my plate in the coming months but I am becoming excited for the fall here. A busy life IMO is a life well lived but you know me, I am going to make time for my homies on here unless this entire forum falls apart.
If you don’t mind me asking, what’s your ultimate goal with women or a woman?
Marriage and children? Are you starting a physical hobby and gaming to improve your interaction with women and yourself generally, with the aim of manwhoring indefinitely or ultimately getting one suitable woman for family formation?
 

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If you don’t mind me asking, what’s your ultimate goal with women or a woman?
Marriage and children? Are you starting a physical hobby and gaming to improve your interaction with women and yourself generally, with the aim of manwhoring indefinitely or ultimately getting one suitable woman for family formation?
This seems like shade or some passive aggressive jab but I will assume it is not. The hobby is independent of women. As for my goal, to sleep with a ton of different women. You have an issue with that, you are free to socialize with others on this forum who are more in line with your morals.
 

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Most men who study and "practice" Game see very little in the way of improvement as compared to being an unaware, blue pill, Average Frustrated Chump.
I have an observation about the game community and pickup, it is a community of extremes in a way. In many ways, the advice when applied can help men a lot. I think that there are 10% of men in the game community who have a super high ceiling. I mean the kinds of guys who will learn game and self-improvement, sleep with hundreds of different women as a result, and then just move on. These guys are driven by action and always putting in the work. They see game as an art that needs refining, a skill almost that needs to be constantly built up. At some point, they will have their fun and move on.

Then you have the 90%.

These are the guys who will go out every week, do the same crap, approach ugly girls because "take action bro!", get rejected, and then act like babies ("omg it is so unfair these women are meeting men through social circle and work!"). They will go on for years at times doing this with almost little to show. These are your broken PUAs who date busted up chicks and never really progress that far in the game. They theorize a ton and start blaming all sorts of external for their lack of success.

All I know is this. I want to eventually move on from this once I have had my fun. Go all in on my business or do something even higher value with my life than game. However, game is a necessary rite of passage for men. A man must sow his wild oats and have his fun before he can move on. Or else, he becomes like those pastors who preach Jesus but then cheat on their wives with significantly younger women. He becomes those creepy old corporate dorks that prey on interns while cheating on their wives because they never had their fun at a younger age.
 

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This seems like shade or some passive aggressive jab but I will assume it is not. The hobby is independent of women. As for my goal, to sleep with a ton of different women. You have an issue with that, you are free to socialize with others on this forum who are more in line with your morals.
It was a judgment-free inquiry. That’s all. I was curious what your aim is considering your investment.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I have faced a lot of criticism and hatred for my goal with game hence my standoffish attitude.
I’m assuming this is mostly from “normal people” lol with the whole “don’t you have a girlfriend” or “when are you getting married” thing?
 

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I have faced a lot of criticism and hatred for my goal with game hence my standoffish attitude.
I’m assuming this is mostly from “normal people” lol with the whole “don’t you have a girlfriend” or “when are you getting married” thing?
Yes but also from PUAs, Red Pillers, and even some on this forum :/
Someone's goals in the mating environment does impact which approach methods to use. Approaching strangers in-person can be used for both finding a longer term girlfriend or for shorter term casual sex.

 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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I could understand the flack from the first group but it coming from the second group is wild :rofl:
PUAs and red pillers overlap quite a bit. PUA is one sub segment of the red pill.
 

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Normal people are mostly blue pill. It's very difficult to talk about the seduction lifestyle with blue pill normies.
I think the term I’m looking for is blue pill. I was trying to avoid using the term “normie friends” :rofl:

And yes, it’s fruitless. 99% of the time they just don’t understand what we’re trying to achieve. I think it’s best just to do you, and let your results/lifestyle speak for itself.
 

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I could understand the flack from the first group but it coming from the second group is wild :rofl:
The whole MGTOW and other garbage has invaded pickup and seduction spaces hard. Tons of dudes, even on here, who would get all religious on you and preach right wing garbage about finding a family and settling down fast. TBH, I don't blame them either sometimes. The game is most definitely a grind.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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