Manure Spherian
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This sounds exhausting as all hell! Wouldn’t going to a location with legal prostitution be far more efficient with your time, money, and mind?
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
This thread is insightful because it is a realistic view into what it takes to get laid as a man who approaches strangers mainly. App swipers also have an exhausting process too.This sounds exhausting as all hell! Wouldn’t going to a location with legal prostitution be far more efficient with your time, money, and mind?
Exhausting but at the end of the day, super worth it. In recent months and even when the thread started, I just realized how much baggage I was coming into the game with. The so called wingmen I had were holding me back for the most part barring exceptions and really messing with my vibe and outcomes. I had a lot of negative influences in my life at the time to truly hit my ceiling. It really shows you how much baggage men in general who do game and struggle with women really have.This sounds exhausting as all hell! Wouldn’t going to a location with legal prostitution be far more efficient with your time, money, and mind?
Yup. I am also going to start a hobby which pushes me physically so my schedule is likely going to get tighter. Not starting it now but will soon. Going to end up having a lot on my plate in the coming months but I am becoming excited for the fall here. A busy life IMO is a life well lived but you know me, I am going to make time for my homies on here unless this entire forum falls apart. Pretty sure @BackInTheGame78 @Serenity @logicallefty @Atom Smasher and others won't let that happen though.This is a modification of an older ideas I read about in the 2000s. The idea might even be older than that.
With night game, there was some common wisdom to use Friday and Saturday nights to find new options and use the other nights of the week for early stage dates. Women had to earn their way into getting a prime Friday/Saturday night slot.
I think that when your process and system is fixed, you can potentially have consistent results but to get there, you just need to lose lots of baggage. Guys come into the game with so much baggage such as toxic beliefs, garbage wingmen, advice from trash coaches, and in order to have success, you need to lose that and become ruthlessly process and results driven. It gets me how so many men wander around aimlessly for years and show little improvement. The same old going out weekend after weekend to spam approach and having very little to show for it because they never improved.This thread is insightful because it is a realistic view into what it takes to get laid as a man who approaches strangers mainly. App swipers also have an exhausting process too.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Yes!ruthlessly process and results driven.
Most men who study and "practice" Game see very little in the way of improvement as compared to being an unaware, blue pill, Average Frustrated Chump.It gets me how so many men wander around aimlessly for years and show little improvement. The same old going out weekend after weekend to spam approach and having very little to show for it because they never improved.
If you don’t mind me asking, what’s your ultimate goal with women or a woman?Yup. I am also going to start a hobby which pushes me physically so my schedule is likely going to get tighter. Not starting it now but will soon. Going to end up having a lot on my plate in the coming months but I am becoming excited for the fall here. A busy life IMO is a life well lived but you know me, I am going to make time for my homies on here unless this entire forum falls apart.
This seems like shade or some passive aggressive jab but I will assume it is not. The hobby is independent of women. As for my goal, to sleep with a ton of different women. You have an issue with that, you are free to socialize with others on this forum who are more in line with your morals.If you don’t mind me asking, what’s your ultimate goal with women or a woman?
Marriage and children? Are you starting a physical hobby and gaming to improve your interaction with women and yourself generally, with the aim of manwhoring indefinitely or ultimately getting one suitable woman for family formation?
I have an observation about the game community and pickup, it is a community of extremes in a way. In many ways, the advice when applied can help men a lot. I think that there are 10% of men in the game community who have a super high ceiling. I mean the kinds of guys who will learn game and self-improvement, sleep with hundreds of different women as a result, and then just move on. These guys are driven by action and always putting in the work. They see game as an art that needs refining, a skill almost that needs to be constantly built up. At some point, they will have their fun and move on.Most men who study and "practice" Game see very little in the way of improvement as compared to being an unaware, blue pill, Average Frustrated Chump.
It was a judgment-free inquiry. That’s all. I was curious what your aim is considering your investment.This seems like shade or some passive aggressive jab but I will assume it is not. The hobby is independent of women. As for my goal, to sleep with a ton of different women. You have an issue with that, you are free to socialize with others on this forum who are more in line with your morals.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
I have faced a lot of criticism and hatred for my goal with game hence my standoffish attitude.It was a judgment-free inquiry. That’s all. I was curious what your aim is considering your investment.
I’m assuming this is mostly from “normal people” lol with the whole “don’t you have a girlfriend” or “when are you getting married” thing?I have faced a lot of criticism and hatred for my goal with game hence my standoffish attitude.
Yes but also from PUAs, Red Pillers, and even some on this forum :/I’m assuming this is mostly from “normal people” lol with the whole “don’t you have a girlfriend” or “when are you getting married” thing?
I have faced a lot of criticism and hatred for my goal with game hence my standoffish attitude.
I’m assuming this is mostly from “normal people” lol with the whole “don’t you have a girlfriend” or “when are you getting married” thing?
Someone's goals in the mating environment does impact which approach methods to use. Approaching strangers in-person can be used for both finding a longer term girlfriend or for shorter term casual sex.Yes but also from PUAs, Red Pillers, and even some on this forum :/
I could understand the flack from the first group but it coming from the second group is wildYes but also from PUAs, Red Pillers, and even some on this forum :/
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
PUAs and red pillers overlap quite a bit. PUA is one sub segment of the red pill.I could understand the flack from the first group but it coming from the second group is wild![]()
My bad, I meant as in “normal people” vs PUAS/red Pillers etcPUAs and red pillers overlap quite a bit. PUA is one sub segment of the red pill.
Normal people are mostly blue pill. It's very difficult to talk about the seduction lifestyle with blue pill normies.My bad, I meant as in “normal people” vs PUAS/red Pillers etc
I think the term I’m looking for is blue pill. I was trying to avoid using the term “normie friends”Normal people are mostly blue pill. It's very difficult to talk about the seduction lifestyle with blue pill normies.
The whole MGTOW and other garbage has invaded pickup and seduction spaces hard. Tons of dudes, even on here, who would get all religious on you and preach right wing garbage about finding a family and settling down fast. TBH, I don't blame them either sometimes. The game is most definitely a grind.I could understand the flack from the first group but it coming from the second group is wild![]()
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.