"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Jake Steed & SexPDX Pound Pavement in Portland! (Long)

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SexPDX and Jake Steed,

How many girls did you approach at the bars you went to? Did you get crazy and approach tonnes, or just the ones mentioned? When I go out I normally average about 10 approaches per night. I just want to see how similar our styles are.

BTW, When are you guys gonna make your northern swing to Vancouver? Because I'm in. I can't wait to see Jake macking on the dance floor.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Jake Steed

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Wheelin,

We did approaches in three venues: Street, Bar, and Club PUs. I did some mall/store approaches on my own while I was in town. Overall, it was a weeklong PU-fest for me.

The breakdown was somewhat like this:

Street approaches solo = 5

Street approaches with Nick = 12?

Bar = 1

Club = 20?

Mall/store solo = 12

airport approach = 1

That comes to roughly 51 approaches that I can remember in a week. Maybe Nick can verify these numbers.

I scored 1 email address and three numbers over this time. Plus gave my number/email to the girl at the airport upon her request. Nick scored additional numbers on his own while I observed during this time.

Currently I have no plans to hit up Vancouver any time soon, but I'll definately let you know if I'm in the area.

Jake
 

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Nick & Jake,

I have to agree that this was one of the most useful, informative threads that's been posted in quite some time.

A lot of guys need to realize that there must be a lot of approaches to obtain even a modest number of numbers, e-mails, etc.

Hopefully, they will begin to understand the folly of pinning all their hopes on a single girl.

I was very impressed with the level of detail you presented. An "old dog" like me could learn some new tricks from you young whipper-snappers!

Excellent job, you two!

Gipper

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"There's nothing wrong with letting the girls know you're money, and that you want to party.
-Trent, from "Swingers"

"Keep your girlfriend away from me,
Just advice I’m giving you for free,
Wanna have every thing I see,
So keep your girlfriend away from me..."
-Local H, from "Here Comes The Zoo"
 

SexPDX

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Originally posted by Gipper:
Nick & Jake,

I have to agree that this was one of the most useful, informative threads that's been posted in quite some time.

A lot of guys need to realize that there must be a lot of approaches to obtain even a modest number of numbers, e-mails, etc.

Hopefully, they will begin to understand the folly of pinning all their hopes on a single girl.

I was very impressed with the level of detail you presented. An "old dog" like me could learn some new tricks from you young whipper-snappers!

Excellent job, you two!

Gipper
Gipper, where you been man?! Good to see a post from you. Shoot me an email if you could: [email protected].

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- The performer known as Nick
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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DJ de Florida

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Originally posted by SexPDX:
I sincerely appreciate the compliment and would like to point out there is a reason for what you observe. We need more blow-by-blow field reports of pick up attempts and seductions whether they involve other DJ's or not.
It was good to see some interactive meetings between two guys from this board. I am too time constrained to go through the effort to post my experiences like you and MOTU.

I know you are into analyzing the results of your interactions with women in different environments in a variety of ways. This is good. I just suggest you use caution when interpreting the results. That is to say you are creating "social experiments" with significant heterogeneity within the experiments. Without clearly identifying appropriate control factors in each situation, it would be difficult to understand your results in the grand scheme of seduction.

My point is that the social experiments are inherently complex, so don't worry about the results too much. Just enjoy the ride......





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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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