"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Jake Steed & SexPDX Pound Pavement in Portland! (Long)

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SexPDX and Jake Steed,

How many girls did you approach at the bars you went to? Did you get crazy and approach tonnes, or just the ones mentioned? When I go out I normally average about 10 approaches per night. I just want to see how similar our styles are.

BTW, When are you guys gonna make your northern swing to Vancouver? Because I'm in. I can't wait to see Jake macking on the dance floor.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Wheelin,

We did approaches in three venues: Street, Bar, and Club PUs. I did some mall/store approaches on my own while I was in town. Overall, it was a weeklong PU-fest for me.

The breakdown was somewhat like this:

Street approaches solo = 5

Street approaches with Nick = 12?

Bar = 1

Club = 20?

Mall/store solo = 12

airport approach = 1

That comes to roughly 51 approaches that I can remember in a week. Maybe Nick can verify these numbers.

I scored 1 email address and three numbers over this time. Plus gave my number/email to the girl at the airport upon her request. Nick scored additional numbers on his own while I observed during this time.

Currently I have no plans to hit up Vancouver any time soon, but I'll definately let you know if I'm in the area.

Jake
 
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Nick & Jake,

I have to agree that this was one of the most useful, informative threads that's been posted in quite some time.

A lot of guys need to realize that there must be a lot of approaches to obtain even a modest number of numbers, e-mails, etc.

Hopefully, they will begin to understand the folly of pinning all their hopes on a single girl.

I was very impressed with the level of detail you presented. An "old dog" like me could learn some new tricks from you young whipper-snappers!

Excellent job, you two!

Gipper

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"There's nothing wrong with letting the girls know you're money, and that you want to party.
-Trent, from "Swingers"

"Keep your girlfriend away from me,
Just advice I’m giving you for free,
Wanna have every thing I see,
So keep your girlfriend away from me..."
-Local H, from "Here Comes The Zoo"
 
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Originally posted by Gipper:
Nick & Jake,

I have to agree that this was one of the most useful, informative threads that's been posted in quite some time.

A lot of guys need to realize that there must be a lot of approaches to obtain even a modest number of numbers, e-mails, etc.

Hopefully, they will begin to understand the folly of pinning all their hopes on a single girl.

I was very impressed with the level of detail you presented. An "old dog" like me could learn some new tricks from you young whipper-snappers!

Excellent job, you two!

Gipper
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Gipper, where you been man?! Good to see a post from you. Shoot me an email if you could: [email protected].

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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Originally posted by SexPDX:
I sincerely appreciate the compliment and would like to point out there is a reason for what you observe. We need more blow-by-blow field reports of pick up attempts and seductions whether they involve other DJ's or not.
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It was good to see some interactive meetings between two guys from this board. I am too time constrained to go through the effort to post my experiences like you and MOTU.

I know you are into analyzing the results of your interactions with women in different environments in a variety of ways. This is good. I just suggest you use caution when interpreting the results. That is to say you are creating "social experiments" with significant heterogeneity within the experiments. Without clearly identifying appropriate control factors in each situation, it would be difficult to understand your results in the grand scheme of seduction.

My point is that the social experiments are inherently complex, so don't worry about the results too much. Just enjoy the ride......





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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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