"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Jake Steed & SexPDX Pound Pavement in Portland! (Long)

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SexPDX and Jake Steed,

How many girls did you approach at the bars you went to? Did you get crazy and approach tonnes, or just the ones mentioned? When I go out I normally average about 10 approaches per night. I just want to see how similar our styles are.

BTW, When are you guys gonna make your northern swing to Vancouver? Because I'm in. I can't wait to see Jake macking on the dance floor.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Wheelin,

We did approaches in three venues: Street, Bar, and Club PUs. I did some mall/store approaches on my own while I was in town. Overall, it was a weeklong PU-fest for me.

The breakdown was somewhat like this:

Street approaches solo = 5

Street approaches with Nick = 12?

Bar = 1

Club = 20?

Mall/store solo = 12

airport approach = 1

That comes to roughly 51 approaches that I can remember in a week. Maybe Nick can verify these numbers.

I scored 1 email address and three numbers over this time. Plus gave my number/email to the girl at the airport upon her request. Nick scored additional numbers on his own while I observed during this time.

Currently I have no plans to hit up Vancouver any time soon, but I'll definately let you know if I'm in the area.

Jake
 
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Nick & Jake,

I have to agree that this was one of the most useful, informative threads that's been posted in quite some time.

A lot of guys need to realize that there must be a lot of approaches to obtain even a modest number of numbers, e-mails, etc.

Hopefully, they will begin to understand the folly of pinning all their hopes on a single girl.

I was very impressed with the level of detail you presented. An "old dog" like me could learn some new tricks from you young whipper-snappers!

Excellent job, you two!

Gipper

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"There's nothing wrong with letting the girls know you're money, and that you want to party.
-Trent, from "Swingers"

"Keep your girlfriend away from me,
Just advice I’m giving you for free,
Wanna have every thing I see,
So keep your girlfriend away from me..."
-Local H, from "Here Comes The Zoo"
 
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Originally posted by Gipper:
Nick & Jake,

I have to agree that this was one of the most useful, informative threads that's been posted in quite some time.

A lot of guys need to realize that there must be a lot of approaches to obtain even a modest number of numbers, e-mails, etc.

Hopefully, they will begin to understand the folly of pinning all their hopes on a single girl.

I was very impressed with the level of detail you presented. An "old dog" like me could learn some new tricks from you young whipper-snappers!

Excellent job, you two!

Gipper
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Gipper, where you been man?! Good to see a post from you. Shoot me an email if you could: [email protected].

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- The performer known as Nick
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Originally posted by SexPDX:
I sincerely appreciate the compliment and would like to point out there is a reason for what you observe. We need more blow-by-blow field reports of pick up attempts and seductions whether they involve other DJ's or not.
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It was good to see some interactive meetings between two guys from this board. I am too time constrained to go through the effort to post my experiences like you and MOTU.

I know you are into analyzing the results of your interactions with women in different environments in a variety of ways. This is good. I just suggest you use caution when interpreting the results. That is to say you are creating "social experiments" with significant heterogeneity within the experiments. Without clearly identifying appropriate control factors in each situation, it would be difficult to understand your results in the grand scheme of seduction.

My point is that the social experiments are inherently complex, so don't worry about the results too much. Just enjoy the ride......





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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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