Tell me which guys are fvcking the hottest women with your mindset ?
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
It seems to me that women become predators towards beta males
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Who thought you this lies?
Don’t expect to feel love for a woman then. Trust is the foundation love is built on…
No, just you and a few others on here.
None of the guys I know including myself who actually get women don't think like that lol not at all. They don't play victim and they damn sure don't think women have power over them lol
The only guys I know who think like y'all are the ones who are frustrated because there not doing good with women.
When someone is successful at something they don't view it in a negative way, that's usually the mindset of someone who's not doing all that great.
Shrugs......
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
lamath
Master Don Juan
I wonder how much of this is socially learned and how much is biological.
Sometime its the other way around, men taking advantage of some women.
Men imo get caught in those more often because women are way more subtle when they pull men into their frame and they are way better at playing the long game.
Sometime its the other way around, men taking advantage of some women.
Men imo get caught in those more often because women are way more subtle when they pull men into their frame and they are way better at playing the long game.
And when a man gets gamed by a women and falls into her frame, who's fault would you say that Is?
Your answer will let you know what side of the fence your on.
lamath
Master Don Juan
Ofc its the man s fault,
But on longer relation or ltr it can get tricky.
I think its ez to control the frame when things start but after some time it can get way harder.
I did a lot of research on personality types ECT and I remember reading how guys who are tough minded and no nonsense are very difficult to manipulate.
Guys who are nice and very agreeable tend to be very easy to manipulate AKA easy to fall into someone's frame.
It's a personality thing, I think a lot of guys should do some research on that, it will give a better understanding of things like this.
lamath
Master Don Juan
Good point there.
I might go looking for some book on this.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Having a manly or masculine frame makes it relatively easy in pulling women or in short term relationships. But it is not enough.
A man's frame is 100% this when collapsed; core values + knowledge + how he does things.
A man can't change his core values, what he can change is how he thinks. And that involves gaining more knowledge.
The more knowledge a man gains the more it influences how he does things to better reflect the outcome he desires.