It’s hard to say in this day and age. I’ve done some super beta stuff in a slip of the moment and thought I had totally ran a girl off, only for her to come back a month later and tell me she wasn’t over her ex or was seeing someone else and things didn’t workout. I made the most of my second chance and stopped trying to be her boyfriend and just be a fun guy that she sleeps with. That ended up working in my favor and when I started acting that way she went from hanging out once a week to me seeing her 4 times in a week sometimes. The moment I stopped acting like I wanted to be the boyfriend, the moment she started treating me like I WAS the boyfriend.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Is she still interested or nah?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Thanks bro, we'll, am still tryna learn, maybe I slipped up bad by leaving a voice mail
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Is she fvcking you? Thats the main indicator of interest.
Thanks for your info, but not errything is about sex yo. Even if I am, what does it matter.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Everything isnt sex. But a woman interested will be giving you her body. She will also open doors and make things easier for you.
That's true, you do have a point there. Thank you
marmel75
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She doesnt know this. All she knows is you did do this with her so in her mind you ARE that guy.
marmel75
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Haha Haha. Wow...you might ever beyond help.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Thank you
Thanks, for letting me know that errything does revolve round that, I screw up I get it, I called and made a mistake, I don't need you judging me for that, just need advice, it's as simple as that.
Just talk straight, and stop with all em riddles
I really do appreciate yall advice but it it that bad, to simply do good to someone, I'm done trying to prove myself to women, like what sense does it make, they ain't all that, and as yall said, just move on and don't keep all eggs in one basket. Hope yall get what am saying. I'm really I made the call yesterday but, thought it was something right to do at the moment.
move forward learn from experience . Have a new day ahead stay positive..."Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.