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I agree with you guru but its been tried already, the OP doesn't listen, hence his other 30 page long threads. Its why I generally don't offer advice, in this case, I just see people feeding him even more drama.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Why would a MAN's goal be to get laid. Getting laid should be a by-product of being a MAN; not the goal.
Ah the friend switch. Tell her you want to have a menage e trois with her and the friend. The girl will be so offended by this unusual request, she will tell you to remove yourself from the premises. She will then inevitable seek out the friend and tell her. Her friend will offer her the requisite sympathy, even while a part of her can't help but to feel flattered by her inclusion in the request. A little while later call is placed to the friend at a time when the other girl is known to be working. After a little humorous banter in which she can't resist, a friendly dinner date is profered.My Name is Nobody said:how can I get to the friend?
ketostix said:Ah the friend switch. Tell her you want to have a menage e trois with her and the friend. The girl will be so offended by this unusual request, she will tell you to remove yourself from the premises. She will then inevitable seek out the friend and tell her. Her friend will offer her the requisite sympathy, even while a part of her can't help but to feel flattered by her inclusion in the request. A little while later call is placed to the friend at a time when the other girl is known to be working. After a little humorous banter in which she can't resist, a friendly dinner date is profered.
The only problem is the friend would have to go out with you behind the girls back you say? The girl wan't nothing to do with you now. She will tell the friend, "If you want to waste your time with that pervert go ahead.". It's a perfcect plan.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Ok George..watch Seinfeld much lol?ketostix said:Ah the friend switch. Tell her you want to have a menage e trois with her and the friend. The girl will be so offended by this unusual request, she will tell you to remove yourself from the premises. She will then inevitable seek out the friend and tell her. Her friend will offer her the requisite sympathy, even while a part of her can't help but to feel flattered by her inclusion in the request. A little while later call is placed to the friend at a time when the other girl is known to be working. After a little humorous banter in which she can't resist, a friendly dinner date is profered.
The only problem is the friend would have to go out with you behind the girls back you say? The girl wan't nothing to do with you now. She will tell the friend, "If you want to waste your time with that pervert go ahead.". It's a perfcect plan.
cordoncordon said:Ok George..watch Seinfeld much lol?![]()
My Name is Nobody said:The target has gone cold! Asked her out Saturday, she said she was busy and didn't counter offer. Talked to her last night, and I asked her to join me for some food but she was too tired.
Time to abandon ship!
ketostix said:Yeah that's cold. You probably should've followed my suggestion with the menage e trois. That would've heated things up with drama.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I never claimed to be over my AFC'ness, and I don't care at this point. I want some ass. And the target is warming up again. This weekend could be it. Maybe after this weekend, or next month, or whenever I get laid again, we can worry about the next stage of overcoming the AFC. This lay I feel, will be an important step in that process. One step at a time my friend.guru1000 said:The nature of this post is quite AFC.
Why would a MAN's goal be to get laid. Getting laid should be a by-product of being a MAN; not the goal.
Then we go on to help the OP get laid but never truly solving the inner AFC issues. So he continues making the same mistakes with his LOLLIPOP mindset.
Tell you the truth, I'd like to make her pay by hooking up with her friend. She is the hottest one of all. I'm not sure how I can pull it off though.The Bat said:As I understand your goal is just to get laid. Why do you continue to play her games? Move on, man. The sex won't be worth it.
Remember, don't be a slave to the *****...![]()
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Good, I don't really care... This chic has bored me to death and I want her friend I met a few weeks ago. She hasn't replied to the text asking for her friends # , lol.ThunderMaverick said:Well you're blowing it completely. Hahahaha
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.