"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I'm ready to get laid again. Let's see how long it takes.

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I agree with you guru but its been tried already, the OP doesn't listen, hence his other 30 page long threads. Its why I generally don't offer advice, in this case, I just see people feeding him even more drama.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I so agree with this that I just wanted to quote it.

Why would a MAN's goal be to get laid. Getting laid should be a by-product of being a MAN; not the goal.
 
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Since I am a man of my word I called her yesterday and I got the v/m. I don't think she likes talking on the phone.

Then she texted me "I'm working".

And that's it. I didn't reply. She didn't call back. Ball is in her court at this point.

Exciting stuff going down over here.
 

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how can I get to the friend?
Ah the friend switch. Tell her you want to have a menage e trois with her and the friend. The girl will be so offended by this unusual request, she will tell you to remove yourself from the premises. She will then inevitable seek out the friend and tell her. Her friend will offer her the requisite sympathy, even while a part of her can't help but to feel flattered by her inclusion in the request. A little while later call is placed to the friend at a time when the other girl is known to be working. After a little humorous banter in which she can't resist, a friendly dinner date is profered.

The only problem is the friend would have to go out with you behind the girls back you say? The girl wan't nothing to do with you now. She will tell the friend, "If you want to waste your time with that pervert go ahead.". It's a perfcect plan :D .
 
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Ah the friend switch. Tell her you want to have a menage e trois with her and the friend. The girl will be so offended by this unusual request, she will tell you to remove yourself from the premises. She will then inevitable seek out the friend and tell her. Her friend will offer her the requisite sympathy, even while a part of her can't help but to feel flattered by her inclusion in the request. A little while later call is placed to the friend at a time when the other girl is known to be working. After a little humorous banter in which she can't resist, a friendly dinner date is profered.

The only problem is the friend would have to go out with you behind the girls back you say? The girl wan't nothing to do with you now. She will tell the friend, "If you want to waste your time with that pervert go ahead.". It's a perfcect plan :D .

That scenario is alot more exciting than reality at this point.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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ketostix said:
Ah the friend switch. Tell her you want to have a menage e trois with her and the friend. The girl will be so offended by this unusual request, she will tell you to remove yourself from the premises. She will then inevitable seek out the friend and tell her. Her friend will offer her the requisite sympathy, even while a part of her can't help but to feel flattered by her inclusion in the request. A little while later call is placed to the friend at a time when the other girl is known to be working. After a little humorous banter in which she can't resist, a friendly dinner date is profered.

The only problem is the friend would have to go out with you behind the girls back you say? The girl wan't nothing to do with you now. She will tell the friend, "If you want to waste your time with that pervert go ahead.". It's a perfcect plan :D .
Ok George..watch Seinfeld much lol? :)
 

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Ok George..watch Seinfeld much lol? :)

Yeah I like that show even though I've seen every episode many times. The Switch episode was on tonight. I think it's most likely if you tried this you would lose both girls followed by in liklihood of them both being into it. George was dating a model in that episode, who he suspected was "refunding" but turns out she wasn't, so it's not so bad to be George :).
 
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The target has gone cold! Asked her out Saturday, she said she was busy and didn't counter offer. Talked to her last night, and I asked her to join me for some food but she was too tired.

Time to abandon ship!
 

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The target has gone cold! Asked her out Saturday, she said she was busy and didn't counter offer. Talked to her last night, and I asked her to join me for some food but she was too tired.

Time to abandon ship!

Yeah that's cold. You probably should've followed my suggestion with the menage e trois. That would've heated things up with drama :D .
 
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Yeah that's cold. You probably should've followed my suggestion with the menage e trois. That would've heated things up with drama :D .

Oh well, this is nothing a few days of no contact won't fix.. right? :nervous:
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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The nature of this post is quite AFC.

Why would a MAN's goal be to get laid. Getting laid should be a by-product of being a MAN; not the goal.

Then we go on to help the OP get laid but never truly solving the inner AFC issues. So he continues making the same mistakes with his LOLLIPOP mindset.
I never claimed to be over my AFC'ness, and I don't care at this point. I want some ass. And the target is warming up again. This weekend could be it. Maybe after this weekend, or next month, or whenever I get laid again, we can worry about the next stage of overcoming the AFC. This lay I feel, will be an important step in that process. One step at a time my friend.
 

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this time go caveman on her. take charge.
 
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Well that brazilian girl went cold for awhile, and I forgot about her. But now she's been texting me (it's the only way she communicates) and asked me to get together this Friday. When I suggested we go out on an action date, she accepted the date but said she wants to bring her friends along again. :cuss:

I should be happy right? I can go out with 3 hot foreign girls.. but I doubt they have a threesome in mind. I'm not sure if I'm going to reply to her. After she goes cold, and ignores me for a month, she wants me to entertain her and her crew? Homey don't play that.
 

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As I understand your goal is just to get laid. Why do you continue to play her games? Move on, man. The sex won't be worth it.

Remember, don't be a slave to the *****...:up:
 
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As I understand your goal is just to get laid. Why do you continue to play her games? Move on, man. The sex won't be worth it.

Remember, don't be a slave to the *****...:up:
Tell you the truth, I'd like to make her pay by hooking up with her friend. She is the hottest one of all. I'm not sure how I can pull it off though.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I'm going to ask her

"is ----- coming?"

And then I am going to ask her for her friends # so I can call her and invite her myself.


LOL!!!
 

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Man, I think it's bad news if she wants to bring THREE of her friends along?

If I were you, I'd do it. Not because I think I'd have a shot, (I mean if she doesn't want to be isolated on a DATE I think she doesn't want to get physical.) but because I would get really friendly with her friends and build up their favor to me. I could flirt heavily with all of them and make them fight for my attention.

OOOR it could go completely wrong. So many things could go wrong. To tell you the truth, I wouldn't really care. Just go have fun with three hot chicks and don't expect to get anything out of it.:cheer:

If you feel it's a waste of time, just tell her you want it to be just you and her.


What have you got to lose telling her that? You'll get a refusal from a girl who didn't seem that interested in the first place. Nothing to lose.
 
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LOL, I am playing her now. I asked her

"is --- coming?" (the hot friend i met)

She said "no, --- and ---- are coming."

I said "what happened to -----? Give me her # I want to say hi"


LOL! This is fun. She must be like WTF.
 
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Well you're blowing it completely. Hahahaha
Good, I don't really care... This chic has bored me to death and I want her friend I met a few weeks ago. She hasn't replied to the text asking for her friends # , lol.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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