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I agree with you guru but its been tried already, the OP doesn't listen, hence his other 30 page long threads. Its why I generally don't offer advice, in this case, I just see people feeding him even more drama.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Why would a MAN's goal be to get laid. Getting laid should be a by-product of being a MAN; not the goal.
Ah the friend switch. Tell her you want to have a menage e trois with her and the friend. The girl will be so offended by this unusual request, she will tell you to remove yourself from the premises. She will then inevitable seek out the friend and tell her. Her friend will offer her the requisite sympathy, even while a part of her can't help but to feel flattered by her inclusion in the request. A little while later call is placed to the friend at a time when the other girl is known to be working. After a little humorous banter in which she can't resist, a friendly dinner date is profered.My Name is Nobody said:how can I get to the friend?
ketostix said:Ah the friend switch. Tell her you want to have a menage e trois with her and the friend. The girl will be so offended by this unusual request, she will tell you to remove yourself from the premises. She will then inevitable seek out the friend and tell her. Her friend will offer her the requisite sympathy, even while a part of her can't help but to feel flattered by her inclusion in the request. A little while later call is placed to the friend at a time when the other girl is known to be working. After a little humorous banter in which she can't resist, a friendly dinner date is profered.
The only problem is the friend would have to go out with you behind the girls back you say? The girl wan't nothing to do with you now. She will tell the friend, "If you want to waste your time with that pervert go ahead.". It's a perfcect plan.
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
Ok George..watch Seinfeld much lol?ketostix said:Ah the friend switch. Tell her you want to have a menage e trois with her and the friend. The girl will be so offended by this unusual request, she will tell you to remove yourself from the premises. She will then inevitable seek out the friend and tell her. Her friend will offer her the requisite sympathy, even while a part of her can't help but to feel flattered by her inclusion in the request. A little while later call is placed to the friend at a time when the other girl is known to be working. After a little humorous banter in which she can't resist, a friendly dinner date is profered.
The only problem is the friend would have to go out with you behind the girls back you say? The girl wan't nothing to do with you now. She will tell the friend, "If you want to waste your time with that pervert go ahead.". It's a perfcect plan.
cordoncordon said:Ok George..watch Seinfeld much lol?![]()
My Name is Nobody said:The target has gone cold! Asked her out Saturday, she said she was busy and didn't counter offer. Talked to her last night, and I asked her to join me for some food but she was too tired.
Time to abandon ship!
ketostix said:Yeah that's cold. You probably should've followed my suggestion with the menage e trois. That would've heated things up with drama.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
I never claimed to be over my AFC'ness, and I don't care at this point. I want some ass. And the target is warming up again. This weekend could be it. Maybe after this weekend, or next month, or whenever I get laid again, we can worry about the next stage of overcoming the AFC. This lay I feel, will be an important step in that process. One step at a time my friend.guru1000 said:The nature of this post is quite AFC.
Why would a MAN's goal be to get laid. Getting laid should be a by-product of being a MAN; not the goal.
Then we go on to help the OP get laid but never truly solving the inner AFC issues. So he continues making the same mistakes with his LOLLIPOP mindset.
Tell you the truth, I'd like to make her pay by hooking up with her friend. She is the hottest one of all. I'm not sure how I can pull it off though.The Bat said:As I understand your goal is just to get laid. Why do you continue to play her games? Move on, man. The sex won't be worth it.
Remember, don't be a slave to the *****...![]()
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Good, I don't really care... This chic has bored me to death and I want her friend I met a few weeks ago. She hasn't replied to the text asking for her friends # , lol.ThunderMaverick said:Well you're blowing it completely. Hahahaha
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.