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I agree with you guru but its been tried already, the OP doesn't listen, hence his other 30 page long threads. Its why I generally don't offer advice, in this case, I just see people feeding him even more drama.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Why would a MAN's goal be to get laid. Getting laid should be a by-product of being a MAN; not the goal.
Ah the friend switch. Tell her you want to have a menage e trois with her and the friend. The girl will be so offended by this unusual request, she will tell you to remove yourself from the premises. She will then inevitable seek out the friend and tell her. Her friend will offer her the requisite sympathy, even while a part of her can't help but to feel flattered by her inclusion in the request. A little while later call is placed to the friend at a time when the other girl is known to be working. After a little humorous banter in which she can't resist, a friendly dinner date is profered.My Name is Nobody said:how can I get to the friend?
ketostix said:Ah the friend switch. Tell her you want to have a menage e trois with her and the friend. The girl will be so offended by this unusual request, she will tell you to remove yourself from the premises. She will then inevitable seek out the friend and tell her. Her friend will offer her the requisite sympathy, even while a part of her can't help but to feel flattered by her inclusion in the request. A little while later call is placed to the friend at a time when the other girl is known to be working. After a little humorous banter in which she can't resist, a friendly dinner date is profered.
The only problem is the friend would have to go out with you behind the girls back you say? The girl wan't nothing to do with you now. She will tell the friend, "If you want to waste your time with that pervert go ahead.". It's a perfcect plan.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Ok George..watch Seinfeld much lol?ketostix said:Ah the friend switch. Tell her you want to have a menage e trois with her and the friend. The girl will be so offended by this unusual request, she will tell you to remove yourself from the premises. She will then inevitable seek out the friend and tell her. Her friend will offer her the requisite sympathy, even while a part of her can't help but to feel flattered by her inclusion in the request. A little while later call is placed to the friend at a time when the other girl is known to be working. After a little humorous banter in which she can't resist, a friendly dinner date is profered.
The only problem is the friend would have to go out with you behind the girls back you say? The girl wan't nothing to do with you now. She will tell the friend, "If you want to waste your time with that pervert go ahead.". It's a perfcect plan.
cordoncordon said:Ok George..watch Seinfeld much lol?![]()
My Name is Nobody said:The target has gone cold! Asked her out Saturday, she said she was busy and didn't counter offer. Talked to her last night, and I asked her to join me for some food but she was too tired.
Time to abandon ship!
ketostix said:Yeah that's cold. You probably should've followed my suggestion with the menage e trois. That would've heated things up with drama.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
I never claimed to be over my AFC'ness, and I don't care at this point. I want some ass. And the target is warming up again. This weekend could be it. Maybe after this weekend, or next month, or whenever I get laid again, we can worry about the next stage of overcoming the AFC. This lay I feel, will be an important step in that process. One step at a time my friend.guru1000 said:The nature of this post is quite AFC.
Why would a MAN's goal be to get laid. Getting laid should be a by-product of being a MAN; not the goal.
Then we go on to help the OP get laid but never truly solving the inner AFC issues. So he continues making the same mistakes with his LOLLIPOP mindset.
Tell you the truth, I'd like to make her pay by hooking up with her friend. She is the hottest one of all. I'm not sure how I can pull it off though.The Bat said:As I understand your goal is just to get laid. Why do you continue to play her games? Move on, man. The sex won't be worth it.
Remember, don't be a slave to the *****...![]()
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Good, I don't really care... This chic has bored me to death and I want her friend I met a few weeks ago. She hasn't replied to the text asking for her friends # , lol.ThunderMaverick said:Well you're blowing it completely. Hahahaha
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.