I'd like some opinions on something I did during an approach.

[Joe Stud]

masterful rescue.

 

[Igetit!]

IMO this was a very amateur pick-up. I see it as lucky he got as far as he did. Going back for the # is not an issue for me here. Rather, I would like to focus on some things he could have done differently from the start.

So to you,going back to get her number wasn't a big deal,it was just how I went about the approach in the first place.


Well I respect your opinion man. I disagree with it,but I'm open to hearing all sides.



My thing is this:I ONLY CARE about results. To me,the journey to the destination isn't as important as the destination itself.



My goal was to get a date,not to execute everything perfectly.


You're right. I didn't dot every "i" and cross every "t",but you know what?

I got the date. And that was MY goal.


I would like to get your opinion on something,though.


Take a look at this other approach I posted about.


I want you to look at it,then come back here to this thread and compare the two. Look at what I said to the girl in the other thread,then look at what I said to the girl in this thread.


Said the same thing,got the same results,and to me,I ONLY CARE about results.


But tell me,what do you think? I seriously want to know.

if you didnt care like you say you dont then you wouldnt be asking us if it came off as needy.

Thanks for the reply man,but as with Mistic,I disagree with you as well.


I don't care. I don't.


I do want to take her out,but if for some reason it fell through,I'm not going to be all depressed and lay around the house for weeks on end over some chick I've known less than 24 HOURS.


I didn't ask for advice. I asked for opinions.


I was curious as to what the forum would think. I didn't ask them what they think I should do.


I made a decision,THEN made this thread. Not the other way around.


To care,I'd have to be emotionally invested in her,right? Well come on,I just met her 19 hours ago.


I can't speak for everyone,but it takes me longer than 19 hours to emotionally bond to a girl.




PIMP-SICLE: Solid advice as usual.

I know the way I approach isn't the "standard" kind that we read here on the forum,but hey,we're all individuals here. Even though Sosuave has a basic teaching,the way we interpet it and execute it in the "field" is unique to each one of us.


I mean there's over 65,000 members here. It'd be foolish to think that ALL 65,000 OF US are going to go out and approach ONE way.



RESCUE MISSION: The "IHOP" thing was her idea. The thing is this....during the approach,we compared our work schedules to see when we'd both be free at the same time. We have a date set up for tomorrow,but she also has to work later on tomorrow night.

So the date will have to take place in the evening. It wasn't as simple as just going back to her place. In fact,I have to work tomorrow night too.


So I had to take this into consideration when planning the date.






ROBERT28:Well,I think the difference between your approach and mine here is that this girl I approached works at the place I approached her. She wasn't a customer.


So she wasn't in a hurry,or about to leave and go somewhere else.

I was in her work section,so she had nowhere else to go. Plus,since she was an employee,I had an easy open by asking her about the bowling shoes.


I just used the shoes to get in there,then directed the convo onto us dating.

 

[Rescue Mission]

RESCUE MISSION: The "IHOP" thing was her idea. The thing is this....during the approach,we compared our work schedules to see when we'd both be free at the same time. We have a date set up for tomorrow,but she also has to work later on tomorrow night.

So the date will have to take place in the evening. It wasn't as simple as just going back to her place. In fact,I have to work tomorrow night too.


So I had to take this into consideration when planning the date.

That is the whole problem - why are you planning a "date" with a hypersexual woman who is attracted to youi? There should be no DATE, there should be just hanging out and fvcking - simple as that!

You both have work and I understand that, but what you should have done was set up a meeting the way I said earlier (drinking and a movie at her/your place) after you both get off work. Even if she works till 9 or 10PM, you could still pick her up from work, do what you gotta do with that horny girl at her/your place, and yes it is possible that you will both lose some sleep and be a little under the weather the following day for work......but guess what?

I have dozens of times done with girls what I am telling you to do with her, and here is a revelation for you from one player to another:

sex > sleep (as long as it doesn't take away from your sleep every single night).

There is nothing better for you, the man, than having an intense beautiful fvcking 3 or 4 or 6 times in one night, losing out on sleep, and knowing the next day while you are laboring away at work, that you are tired as hell, but FEELIN like da motha****in MAN!

So yea, next time, don't be a nice guy - who cares that she wants to eat at IHOP, and who cares that you both have work? If she is being sexual and you are even just barely sure that she wants your c0ck, then YOU do ALL of the leading, and she WILL follow if she is interested - horny chicks do not care about sleep either

With all that said........you are going to IHOP since the date has been set, and I want you to use that to get close to her, cuddle, hold hands, touch her, even kiss her when you leave IHOP, and make sure that she knows how well you are going to fvck her in the very near future.......make her wet thinking about it.......tell her what you are going to do to her to make her cvm (do all this at IHOP, make sure your convo is going in a sexual direction). Then near the end of the "date", set up to see her AFTER work tomorrow or in 2 days (or even TONIGHT), and proceed with my prior advice.

You're welcome, I am after all only here on a rescue mission

 

[Rescue Mission]

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[Mistic]

I would like to get your opinion on something,though.

Take a look at this other approach I posted about.

I agree. Results are all that matter. If you got your system that works, keep doin it. I didn't mention earlier that everything you did toward the end of your pick up was basically what I would have done.

I'll also note that you are actually out there doing it, and making field reports. That is what matters in the end.

Members here that actually know me, and know me by my old user name, know that I have posted many fr's with pictures of me picking up a lot of girls. I documented a post one time just for fun where I went out one night to several clubs and created opportunities with 11 different women, all above average looking. So, although everyone here does not agree with my advice, it works for me, as your seems to, and I get as many women as I want whenever I want in any situation - to the point I am getting bored with pick-up.

The only reason I addressed your post, where I typically dont with others, is that I saw some good stuff from you, but I also saw a lot of opportunities where you could be having much more fun and direct communication in you pu's.

I encourage you, if you begin to become less interested in outcomes, and more interested in the game, to keep moving away from scripted stuff, and trust your reflexes to be witty and funny and effective in the moment.

 

[Mistic]

back asap."

LOL! Bro the only thing that's amatuer is your advice! 99% chance he would've been shut down if he replied with your suggestion here because there was absolutely no rapport. Unless she was highly sexually interested in him (which we later found out that she was or is also a slvt) this would've got him no where.

No rapport. How do you know? If ur a real playa, rapport is immediate. If the vibe is there from the start, you can say whatever you want. What reality do you live in?


Again this advice, while not terrible, would've have made a difference at this point.

Maybe not for you. Everything I say makes a difference, or I wouldn't say it. This is high level stuff that you may not be able to grasp yet. That's okay, you'll get there some day.


Dude, your advice is freakin' horrible so far!! Its making me laugh as I type this! LOL Notice the difference between his reply and your suggested reply? He's asking her a question, while also showing her he's not intimidated by her... asking questions... helps to keep the conversation flowing. And again, you have to build some rapport in any pick up before you can jump right into sexual innuedos.

Again with the rapport? Maybe you lack in this area. I can build enough rapport with eye contact alone to say whatever sexual innuendo I want, and have it be well received. When you are truly confident, and not creepy, and good looking, yuo can say and do whatever you want.


It wasn't luck; it was looks + seduction building attraction and making her feel comfortable.

I disagree. This was a random act that she did all on her own, because she wanted to change the direction of the interaction. She was GIVING him an opportunity, that he didn't fully create.

Looks like you didn't understand what he meant by that. Of course he knows women are sexual beings and have the desire to have sex just as much, if not more than guys; BUT he was shocked to have this girl aggressively swing the conversation in the direction so early.

You said it. "He was shocked" Obviously she is this kind of girl, which is why it went as well as it did. With experience, you can identify types before you even approach them, and know exactly how things are going to go. An experienced guy is rarely surprised.

LOL.... your not James Bond bro, lay of seductionfornewbies.com so much.

LMAO!!! I was starting to think you don't give THAT bad of advice, but the last two responses from you have re-confirmed that notion.

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I am starting to suspect that you dont have much of a sense of humor. It's ok to relax now and then and have a little fun

 

[Falcon25]

Alcohol equals sex, food equals sleep. Just take her out for drinks (she doesn't sound like one you should date), then invite her over or something. I hop or whatever is not bad but she sounds horny. A couple drinks and comfort in your house is all it takes.

 

[teacha]

Well UPDATE TIME.


I just called her about 30 minutes ago. It turns out I was right.


During the approach,I gave her both my cell and home phone numbers,and as it turns out,she tried to send a text to my HOME PHONE,which is a landline that doesn't receive texts.


Simple misunderstanding.

IgetIt, how do you know she actually sent a text your landline by mistake (if she did actually sent it in the first place)?

The reason im asking this is because maybe she didn't send the text just to 'see how bad you wanted that pussy'. Maybe she did all that to see if you would come back to ask her number and when you actually did, she fed you that bull about how she sent the text already and how come you aint replied yet. Hoes will always test you to the end.

Good approach by the way.

 

[kingsam]

igetit, let us know how the date goes...

 

[Igetit!]

IgetIt, how do you know she actually sent a text your landline by mistake (if she did actually sent it in the first place)?

That's easy.

I know because I gave her two different numbers,and the area codes of the numbers are different.


The first number to my cell starts with a 4,but the first number to my landline starts with a 9.


When I went back the second time to confirm having her number,I asked her what number she sent the text to,she called out the landline number,which starts with a 9.

The reason im asking this is because maybe she didn't send the text just to 'see how bad you wanted that pussy'. Maybe she did all that to see if you would come back to ask her number and when you actually did, she fed you that bull about how she sent the text already and how come you aint replied yet. Hoes will always test you to the end.

I didn't get that kind of "vibe" from her.


I understand what you're saying though,I have had that happen to me...on more than one occasion.


I remember this one girl who as it turned out,she was my longest relationship.


I approached her,asked her for her number,and she said,"Hmm,I'll tell you what....(she took a piece of paper,wrote her name on it,then handed it to me),then she said,"If you come back here tomorrow at this time,I'll give you my number".



Now it was at 6 o'clock in the morning when this happened.

I guess she did it to see if I was really serious,or just going around collecting numbers with no intentions of calling.



So I was like,"Is that all?". So I went back the next day,she gave me her number,and the rest is history.



I think everything was level with this girl.

Good approach by the way.

Gracias.

igetit,let us know how the date goes...

Will do sir.

 

[2crudedudes]

I'm no expert by any means, and I'm not trying to put anyone's game down, but Mistic does bring up some damn good points. Throw in the fact that this girl appears pretty, oh lets just call it "open minded" for lack of a nicer term, and any mistakes you made are irrelevant.

Why did you give her TWO numbers? This to me seems a little desperate. A little too available from what I've learned from this place.

 

[Mantis Toboggan]

I'm no expert by any means, and I'm not trying to put anyone's game down, but Mistic does bring up some damn good points. Throw in the fact that this girl appears pretty, oh lets just call it "open minded" for lack of a nicer term, and any mistakes you made are irrelevant.

Why did you give her TWO numbers? This to me seems a little desperate. A little too available from what I've learned from this place.

Mistic's advice seems like it was taken from the script in a porno. "We clearly we need to get you on your back asap." Come on...

No matter how whorish a girl may act, there's no need to push her that hard in the first conversation. The first date? Sure. But to be "creepy sexual dude" within 10 minutes of first contact? That's asking a lot.

And the two numbers thing? It's only desperate if you come off as a desperate person. He didn't.

 

[Mistic]

Mistic's advice seems like it was taken from the script in a porno. "We clearly we need to get you on your back asap." Come on...

No matter how whorish a girl may act, there's no need to push her that hard in the first conversation. The first date? Sure. But to be "creepy sexual dude" within 10 minutes of first contact? That's asking a lot.

And the two numbers thing? It's only desperate if you come off as a desperate person. He didn't.

Panties TooLaggin, and the rest of you non-believing conservatives.

It's unfortunate that you guys are in such a box about what can and cant be done. As I already mentioned, due to the way I handle myself and the way I say things, I can say whatever I want without fear of being seen as overly sexual or creepy, because I make it fun and low pressure.

I got two tips for you all.

1. Loose the butt huger underwear. It's making you guys uptight and restricting your game. Gotta let it all hang loose.

2. Women like sexual talk, esp. when you are lighthearted and fun, at the same time being confident and dead serious.

 

[Mantis Toboggan]

Panties TooLaggin, and the rest of you non-believing conservatives.

It's unfortunate that you guys are in such a box about what can and cant be done. As I already mentioned, due to the way I handle myself and the way I say things, I can say whatever I want without fear of being seen as overly sexual or creepy, because I make it fun and low pressure.

I got two tips for you all.

1. Loose the butt huger underwear. It's making you guys uptight and restricting your game. Gotta let it all hang loose.

2. Women like sexual talk, esp. when you are lighthearted and fun, at the same time being confident and dead serious.

"We need to get you on your back" is lighthearted? Seems like you're offering to bang a stranger within the first 2 sentences of meeting her. "I'm good at keeping secrets"??? Do you have a mustache? I bet you do.

This all might be a good way to pick up a hooker on the Vegas strip though.

 

[Pimp-sicle]

Originally Posted by Pimp-sicle
back asap."

LOL! Bro the only thing that's amatuer is your advice! 99% chance he would've been shut down if he replied with your suggestion here because there was absolutely no rapport. Unless she was highly sexually interested in him (which we later found out that she was or is also a slvt) this would've got him no where.

No rapport. How do you know? If ur a real playa, rapport is immediate. If the vibe is there from the start, you can say whatever you want. What reality do you live in?

No physical attraction is immediate, rapport takes time to build, some can build rapport quickly, while others take longer and some can never get to that point at all....


Again this advice, while not terrible, would've have made a difference at this point.

Maybe not for you. Everything I say makes a difference, or I wouldn't say it. This is high level stuff that you may not be able to grasp yet. That's okay, you'll get there some day.

Get off your own d-ick! I'm already there bro, I don't need to seek your approval to know my game is tight... but you can keep entertaining me with your fake routine....


Dude, your advice is freakin' horrible so far!! Its making me laugh as I type this! LOL Notice the difference between his reply and your suggested reply? He's asking her a question, while also showing her he's not intimidated by her... asking questions... helps to keep the conversation flowing. And again, you have to build some rapport in any pick up before you can jump right into sexual innuedos.

Again with the rapport? Maybe you lack in this area. I can build enough rapport with eye contact alone to say whatever sexual innuendo I want, and have it be well received. When you are truly confident, and not creepy, and good looking, yuo can say and do whatever you want.

LOL!!! Always gotta trust the dude who tries hard to look like a Don Juan over the internet! haha Its pretty pathetic how hard you try to look cool. Don't worry keep telling yourself that your good looking and have the eye of the tiger brother...

What's even better is your taking this personal and trying to puff out your chest by saying stupid $hit. How's that low self esteem treating you?? I'm not even disagreeing about certain things your saying.... but for you to think that rapport is instant is laughable. Figure out the difference between comfort/rapport and pure physical attraction and come back to talk to me..


It wasn't luck; it was looks + seduction building attraction and making her feel comfortable.

I disagree. This was a random act that she did all on her own, because she wanted to change the direction of the interaction. She was GIVING him an opportunity, that he didn't fully create.

And she wouldn't have changed the direction of the conversation unless she was attracted Sherlock....

Looks like you didn't understand what he meant by that. Of course he knows women are sexual beings and have the desire to have sex just as much, if not more than guys; BUT he was shocked to have this girl aggressively swing the conversation in the direction so early.

You said it. "He was shocked" Obviously she is this kind of girl, which is why it went as well as it did. With experience, you can identify types before you even approach them, and know exactly how things are going to go. An experienced guy is rarely surprised.

I know the game dude... I know how to spot 'em and knock em down. Again, no need to brag to you on an internet forum, but if that's what you gotta do to make yourself feel good....brag on. Are there girls who would fuvk you within 10 seconds of meeting you? Of course... are there signs they give off? Of course. Igetit obviously wasn't expecting this from this broad and hence he was shocked. Doesn't mean he doesn't know how to spot this type 9/10.

LOL.... your not James Bond bro, lay of seductionfornewbies.com so much.

LMAO!!! I was starting to think you don't give THAT bad of advice, but the last two responses from you have re-confirmed that notion.

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I am starting to suspect that you dont have much of a sense of humor. It's ok to relax now and then and have a little fun


Funny my sense of humor is one of my greatest traits.... looks like your not so great at reading traits in people after all.

You must have some how thought I don't believe in amp-ing up the sexual attraction when meeting a girl for the first time. If that's the case I never said that, BUT to say it as the first thing that comes out of your mouth would get you no where.

Keep thinking all you want about me, I've been around these boards for a long time, most of the guys around here know my game and know what I have done. Again, no need for me to brag about it.... but just realize that people would value your advice a lot more if you didn't sound so cookie-cutter and then get all defensive... not very Don Juan now is it???


PIMP
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[Rescue Mission]

"We need to get you on your back" is lighthearted? Seems like you're offering to bang a stranger within the first 2 sentences of meeting her. "I'm good at keeping secrets"??? Do you have a mustache? I bet you do.

This all might be a good way to pick up a hooker on the Vegas strip though.

dude, cmon, stop being such a "nice" guy - how daaaaaaaaare he say "we need to get you on your back", we don't wanna offfffffffend the little princess of a woman, right?

Seriously, have you ever spoken in a smooth sexual manner to a chick before? Clearly the girl at the store said that she has been on her feet all day, and the "we need to get you on your back" line, when said smoothly and with a smirk, will get a really good laugh from her (it's called situational humor) - stop being so niiiiiiiiiiiiiice to people.

 

[Mistic]

Originally Posted by Pimp-sicle
back asap."

LIMP

How many times did you say "Not trying to brag."

It seems like you have way more invested in this forum than me. Personally, I could give a sh!t what you or anyone else thinks about me, or my advice here. I was not even slightly defensive in my replies to your post. You are giving yourself way too much credit assuming that I actually care what you think about my pu style. I simply gave some advice, not to you, and you decided to analyze it, and I in turn analyzed yours.

Dont worry, soon I will be back to work in real life, and again have no time or interest in masturbating on forums, and you can have your little domain back. Limp-sicle

 

[Mistic]

dude, cmon, stop being such a "nice" guy - how daaaaaaaaare he say "we need to get you on your back", we don't wanna offfffffffend the little princess of a woman, right?

Seriously, have you ever spoken in a smooth sexual manner to a chick before? Clearly the girl at the store said that she has been on her feet all day, and the "we need to get you on your back" line, when said smoothly and with a smirk, will get a really good laugh from her (it's called situational humor) - stop being so niiiiiiiiiiiiiice to people.

You appear to be the only other guy on this forum that gets what I am saying. I dont mean to come off like a know it all or an a$$hole around hear, but some things need to be said.

 

[Rescue Mission]

You appear to be the only other guy on this forum that gets what I am saying. I dont mean to come off like a know it all or an a$$hole around hear, but some things need to be said.

There is certainly nothing wrong with speaking the truth as long as it was proven with personal experience. All of these nice guys who are barely experienced with women have NO idea what should or shouldn't be said to get the easy sex, and they should all stop posting advice, and start learning from those who know what they are talking about.

You never see the students teaching the teachers in school, do you?

You never see a AA minor league baseball player teaching an MLB player how to swing the bat, do you?

You never see the college student studying for a business degree tell an owner of 10 different restaurants how to manage a restaurant, do you?

edit: with that said, I think you and Pimp_sicle just had a misunderstanding, because based on his advice from the past, along with his username, I am led to believe that he is an experienced player just like you and me.

 

[Pimp-sicle]

How many times did you say "Not trying to brag."

I said it twice... was that hurting your head trying to count?

It seems like you have way more invested in this forum than me.

Really?! 1,500 posts in 7 years from me and nearly 300 in 3 weeks from you? Who's the busy guy living life? Definitely not you.

Personally, I could give a sh!t what you or anyone else thinks about me, or my advice here. I was not even slightly defensive in my replies to your post.

LOL okay buddy... looks like I've hit a nerve.... reach for the Prozac

You are giving yourself way too much credit assuming that I actually care what you think about my pu style. I simply gave some advice, not to you, and you decided to analyze it, and I in turn analyzed yours.

Not really how it went down. You are so on your own d-ick that you get pissed/defensive if someone disagrees with your point of view. Notice how I said "I agree" with a few of your points in my original post? I don't disagree that some of the things you recommended have merit; but you need to get off your high horse if you want people to take you seriously.

And if you TRULY didn't give a $hit about what people are saying about you here or if someone didn't play a situation right, you wouldn't waste your time replying.

Dont worry, soon I will be back to work in real life, and again have no time or interest in masturbating on forums, and you can have your little domain back. Limp-sicle


Limp-sicle... how creative! You are funny!!! Keep telling yourself your not butt-hurt! And don't let the door hit you on the way out sucka.

PIMP