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So to you,going back to get her number wasn't a big deal,it was just how I went about the approach in the first place.Mistic said:IMO this was a very amateur pick-up. I see it as lucky he got as far as he did. Going back for the # is not an issue for me here. Rather, I would like to focus on some things he could have done differently from the start.
Thanks for the reply man,but as with Mistic,I disagree with you as well.omega05 said:if you didnt care like you say you dont then you wouldnt be asking us if it came off as needy.
That is the whole problem - why are you planning a "date" with a hypersexual woman who is attracted to youi? There should be no DATE, there should be just hanging out and fvcking - simple as that!Igetit! said:RESCUE MISSION: The "IHOP" thing was her idea. The thing is this....during the approach,we compared our work schedules to see when we'd both be free at the same time. We have a date set up for tomorrow,but she also has to work later on tomorrow night.
So the date will have to take place in the evening. It wasn't as simple as just going back to her place. In fact,I have to work tomorrow night too.
So I had to take this into consideration when planning the date.
Igetit! said:I would like to get your opinion on something,though.
Take a look at this other approach I posted about.
Igetit! said:I agree. Results are all that matter. If you got your system that works, keep doin it. I didn't mention earlier that everything you did toward the end of your pick up was basically what I would have done.
I'll also note that you are actually out there doing it, and making field reports. That is what matters in the end.
Members here that actually know me, and know me by my old user name, know that I have posted many fr's with pictures of me picking up a lot of girls. I documented a post one time just for fun where I went out one night to several clubs and created opportunities with 11 different women, all above average looking. So, although everyone here does not agree with my advice, it works for me, as your seems to, and I get as many women as I want whenever I want in any situation - to the point I am getting bored with pick-up.
The only reason I addressed your post, where I typically dont with others, is that I saw some good stuff from you, but I also saw a lot of opportunities where you could be having much more fun and direct communication in you pu's.
I encourage you, if you begin to become less interested in outcomes, and more interested in the game, to keep moving away from scripted stuff, and trust your reflexes to be witty and funny and effective in the moment.
I am starting to suspect that you dont have much of a sense of humor. It's ok to relax now and then and have a little funPimp-sicle said:back asap."
LOL! Bro the only thing that's amatuer is your advice! 99% chance he would've been shut down if he replied with your suggestion here because there was absolutely no rapport. Unless she was highly sexually interested in him (which we later found out that she was or is also a slvt) this would've got him no where.
No rapport. How do you know? If ur a real playa, rapport is immediate. If the vibe is there from the start, you can say whatever you want. What reality do you live in?
Again this advice, while not terrible, would've have made a difference at this point.
Maybe not for you. Everything I say makes a difference, or I wouldn't say it. This is high level stuff that you may not be able to grasp yet. That's okay, you'll get there some day.
Dude, your advice is freakin' horrible so far!! Its making me laugh as I type this! LOL Notice the difference between his reply and your suggested reply? He's asking her a question, while also showing her he's not intimidated by her... asking questions... helps to keep the conversation flowing. And again, you have to build some rapport in any pick up before you can jump right into sexual innuedos.
Again with the rapport? Maybe you lack in this area. I can build enough rapport with eye contact alone to say whatever sexual innuendo I want, and have it be well received. When you are truly confident, and not creepy, and good looking, yuo can say and do whatever you want.
It wasn't luck; it was looks + seduction building attraction and making her feel comfortable.
I disagree. This was a random act that she did all on her own, because she wanted to change the direction of the interaction. She was GIVING him an opportunity, that he didn't fully create.
Looks like you didn't understand what he meant by that. Of course he knows women are sexual beings and have the desire to have sex just as much, if not more than guys; BUT he was shocked to have this girl aggressively swing the conversation in the direction so early.
You said it. "He was shocked" Obviously she is this kind of girl, which is why it went as well as it did. With experience, you can identify types before you even approach them, and know exactly how things are going to go. An experienced guy is rarely surprised.
LOL.... your not James Bond bro, lay of seductionfornewbies.com so much.
LMAO!!! I was starting to think you don't give THAT bad of advice, but the last two responses from you have re-confirmed that notion.
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IgetIt, how do you know she actually sent a text your landline by mistake (if she did actually sent it in the first place)?Igetit! said:Well UPDATE TIME.
I just called her about 30 minutes ago. It turns out I was right.
During the approach,I gave her both my cell and home phone numbers,and as it turns out,she tried to send a text to my HOME PHONE,which is a landline that doesn't receive texts.
Simple misunderstanding.
That's easy.teacha said:IgetIt, how do you know she actually sent a text your landline by mistake (if she did actually sent it in the first place)?
I didn't get that kind of "vibe" from her.teacha said:The reason im asking this is because maybe she didn't send the text just to 'see how bad you wanted that pussy'. Maybe she did all that to see if you would come back to ask her number and when you actually did, she fed you that bull about how she sent the text already and how come you aint replied yet. Hoes will always test you to the end.
Gracias.teacha said:Good approach by the way.
kingsam said:igetit,let us know how the date goes...
Mistic's advice seems like it was taken from the script in a porno. "We clearly we need to get you on your back asap." Come on...2crudedudes said:I'm no expert by any means, and I'm not trying to put anyone's game down, but Mistic does bring up some damn good points. Throw in the fact that this girl appears pretty, oh lets just call it "open minded" for lack of a nicer term, and any mistakes you made are irrelevant.
Why did you give her TWO numbers? This to me seems a little desperate. A little too available from what I've learned from this place.
Panties TooLaggin, and the rest of you non-believing conservatives.Mantis Toboggan said:Mistic's advice seems like it was taken from the script in a porno. "We clearly we need to get you on your back asap." Come on...
No matter how whorish a girl may act, there's no need to push her that hard in the first conversation. The first date? Sure. But to be "creepy sexual dude" within 10 minutes of first contact? That's asking a lot.
And the two numbers thing? It's only desperate if you come off as a desperate person. He didn't.
"We need to get you on your back" is lighthearted? Seems like you're offering to bang a stranger within the first 2 sentences of meeting her. "I'm good at keeping secrets"??? Do you have a mustache? I bet you do.Mistic said:Panties TooLaggin, and the rest of you non-believing conservatives.
It's unfortunate that you guys are in such a box about what can and cant be done. As I already mentioned, due to the way I handle myself and the way I say things, I can say whatever I want without fear of being seen as overly sexual or creepy, because I make it fun and low pressure.
I got two tips for you all.
1. Loose the butt huger underwear. It's making you guys uptight and restricting your game. Gotta let it all hang loose.
2. Women like sexual talk, esp. when you are lighthearted and fun, at the same time being confident and dead serious.
Mantis Toboggan said:"We need to get you on your back" is lighthearted? Seems like you're offering to bang a stranger within the first 2 sentences of meeting her. "I'm good at keeping secrets"??? Do you have a mustache? I bet you do.
This all might be a good way to pick up a hooker on the Vegas strip though.
How many times did you say "Not trying to brag."Pimp-sicle said:Originally Posted by Pimp-sicle
back asap."
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You appear to be the only other guy on this forum that gets what I am saying. I dont mean to come off like a know it all or an a$$hole around hear, but some things need to be said.Rescue Mission said:dude, cmon, stop being such a "nice" guy - how daaaaaaaaare he say "we need to get you on your back", we don't wanna offfffffffend the little princess of a woman, right?
Seriously, have you ever spoken in a smooth sexual manner to a chick before? Clearly the girl at the store said that she has been on her feet all day, and the "we need to get you on your back" line, when said smoothly and with a smirk, will get a really good laugh from her (it's called situational humor) - stop being so niiiiiiiiiiiiiice to people.
Mistic said:You appear to be the only other guy on this forum that gets what I am saying. I dont mean to come off like a know it all or an a$$hole around hear, but some things need to be said.
Mistic said:How many times did you say "Not trying to brag."
I said it twice... was that hurting your head trying to count?
It seems like you have way more invested in this forum than me.
Really?! 1,500 posts in 7 years from me and nearly 300 in 3 weeks from you? Who's the busy guy living life? Definitely not you.
Personally, I could give a sh!t what you or anyone else thinks about me, or my advice here. I was not even slightly defensive in my replies to your post.
LOL okay buddy... looks like I've hit a nerve.... reach for the Prozac
You are giving yourself way too much credit assuming that I actually care what you think about my pu style. I simply gave some advice, not to you, and you decided to analyze it, and I in turn analyzed yours.
Not really how it went down. You are so on your own d-ick that you get pissed/defensive if someone disagrees with your point of view. Notice how I said "I agree" with a few of your points in my original post? I don't disagree that some of the things you recommended have merit; but you need to get off your high horse if you want people to take you seriously.
And if you TRULY didn't give a $hit about what people are saying about you here or if someone didn't play a situation right, you wouldn't waste your time replying.
Dont worry, soon I will be back to work in real life, and again have no time or interest in masturbating on forums, and you can have your little domain back. Limp-sicle
Limp-sicle... how creative! You are funny!!! Keep telling yourself your not butt-hurt! And don't let the door hit you on the way out sucka.
What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
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