I was correct

[FlirtLife]

Duuuuude..

It says "most likely" which also means high confidence in this case.
They have then later under the pressure from the official narrative changed their minds and now saying "low confidence".
It cannot be that hard, can it?

Your only evidence is a news headline? No actual quotes from a report or facts - a news headline?

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

I suppose you could say that people infected at the lab were taken to the market, to misdirect any investigation or, in the more sinister version, to kick off a massive outbreak. It still wouldn't explain the correlation of animal and virus evidence from 2014 and 2019.

You’d have to read the article in its entirety to grok what I’m taking about.

For those interested, an interesting read:

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2023/02/28/1160162845/what-does-the-science-say-about-the-origin-of-the-sars-cov-2-pandemic

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Your only evidence is a news headline? No actual quotes from a report or facts - a news headline?

What fricking evidence, what are you talking about dude?
We are talking about your statement and grading of "low confidence" saying:

The term "most likely" in that title is not how I would characterize a "low confidence" conclusion:

where I quoted the article and I corrected you..

 

[Xenom0rph]

The people who say things like "it's time to move on" or "it's in the past" are the ones whose ego cannot admit that they got duped.

Sorry, simply "moving on" will guarantee that these same practices of tyrannical lockdowns and not allowing questioning of government narratives will only be repeated.

We need to constantly remind people of the dangers of blind acceptance of media and government propaganda.

A certain side of the aisle got duped, they'll never admit it, but it's actually irrelevant whether or not they'll admit it, they're likely to be weeded out anyways, so their opinions don't mean much in the larger picture.

 

[FlirtLife]

What fricking evidence, what are you talking about dude?
We are talking about your statement and grading of "low confidence" saying:

where I quoted the article and I corrected you..

I cannot view the WSJ article you posted [1] because I lack a WSJ subscription. I can see "most likely" in the title and in the first sentence.

I can view the NPR article [2] which @Pierce.Manhammer posted. Quoting from the NPR article [2]:

"... The Wall Street Journal added to that debate this week when they reported that the U.S. Department of Energy has shifted its stance on the origin of COVID. It now concludes, with "low confidence," that the pandemic most likely arose from a laboratory leak in Wuhan, China.

The agency based their conclusion on classified evidence that isn't available to the public. According to the federal government, "low confidence" means "the information used in the analysis is scant, questionable, fragmented, or that solid analytical conclusions cannot be inferred from the information."

And at this point, the U.S. intelligence community still has no consensus about the origin of SARS-CoV-2. Four of the eight intelligence agencies lean toward a natural origin for the virus, with "low confidence," while two of them – the DOE and the Federal Bureau of Investigation – support a lab origin, with the latter having "moderate confidence" about their conclusion. ..."


[1]

Speaking of the Devil...
US government now confirms its was the lab leak and Wuhan that released the virus to the world.:
View attachment 9773

WSJ News Exclusive | Lab Leak Most Likely Origin of Covid-19 Pandemic, Energy Department Now Says

The U.S. agency’s revised assessment of how the pandemic started is based on new intelligence.

www.wsj.com

and so it turns out we a were right all along.

Oh irony... how almost all so called blamed "conspiracy theories" have all later been confirmed as true.
I personally find it amusing.

[2]

For those interested, an interesting read:

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2023/02/28/1160162845/what-does-the-science-say-about-the-origin-of-the-sars-cov-2-pandemic

 

[AureliusMaximus]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1630569017332121600

Now why is the China's Communist Party feeling threatened to that extent that they officially warn Elon Musk to not release any data about the Wuhan Lab?

Could it be that dot dot dot?

I don't know so I let it up to you to decide...

 

[AureliusMaximus]

I suppose you could say that people infected at the lab were taken to the market, to misdirect any investigation or, in the more sinister version, to kick off a massive outbreak. It still wouldn't explain the correlation of animal and virus evidence from 2014 and 2019.

You’d have to read the article in its entirety to grok what I’m taking about.

Its was in the name of "science" we should insolate and "kick the crub" and take the jab without asking any questions. Now how did that work out for most people?

The whole thing of screaming "science" is a quite argument a science isn't a constant thing, but evolves over time and to do that it must be open to new ideas and concept.

The word "science" was used as a political tool to force/convince that they were the ones with the moral high ground and they therefore where the only one that was right.

Many words during this phase became both politicalized, weaponized and everything was either black or white. Heck they still use it that way attempting to force people to believers of their cult religion of Science.

The problem with that is that they are not really referring to science, but to their truth. I do believe in science is a good very thing for mankind and the very reason why our life standards have improved. But I beg to differ that their version of "science" has anything to do with real science which always seeks the truth.

Now in the aftermath there is every day coming out more and more data that shows a whole different side of the coin. Some still won't accept it even though the data is screaming people straight in the face.

It is all out there on the internet and easily accessible if you just bother to look it up.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Well... well. Now even FBI Director Christopher Wray says that COVID-19 likely leaked from the Wuhan lab.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1630717963304312832

Do we need more confirmation?

Anyone here ready to take the...

Is that a yes?

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

The problem with that is that they are not really referring to science, but to their truth. I do believe in science is a good very thing for mankind and the very reason why our life standards have improved. But I beg to differ that their version of "science" has anything to do with real science which always seeks the truth.

Who is “they”?

Some still won't accept it even though the data is screaming people straight in the face.

accept what?

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Who is “they”?

The establishment/those behind the narrative. I thought that was quote obvious and could be read through the thin red line in the text.

accept what?

Do I really need to carve it out in stone for you? C'mon brother...

 

[Pedrito0906]

Well, we can all come together and realize how we All got played or we can stay divided and keep pushing to be ‘right’.
It’s our choice …

I didn't get played, those who did everything under coercion got played, those who willingly believed everything the government said got played, those healthy people who took the vax and developed bad things got played, those who took the vax in order to not lose their jobs got played. I was never scared of a cold.

How can they live with themselves knowing that every changed when Putin attacked and the narrative changed to Ukraine?

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

The establishment/those behind the narrative. I thought that was quote obvious and could be read through the thin red line in the text.

Do I really need to carve it out in stone for you? C'mon brother...

I’m trying to define what these things mean to you for purposes of the discussion - it’s an inflammatory subject-
- I’ve found in these situations it’s Keats best to define the parameters of a discussion so the participants are talking about the same things. Often we (humans) engage in discussions assuming everyone is using mental constructs the same way, I’ve found that in life that is very rarely the case.

All good either way man, I’m not rabid about either side of the discussion- although I do lean towards a lab feck up that caused a release and the coverup that followed to save face - the Chicoms are big on saving face. The governments of the world without exception are about power grabs and most of them took advantage of the situation as best they could.

 

[Xenom0rph]

I didn't get played, those who did everything under coercion got played, those who willingly believed everything the government said got played, those healthy people who took the vax and developed bad things got played, those who took the vax in order to not lose their jobs got played. I was never scared of a cold.

How can they live with themselves knowing that every changed when Putin attacked and the narrative changed to Ukraine?

100%..... "We ALL got played" is bullsh!t....

Only the weak-willed and feeble-minded got played.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Yeah, I'm not part of that "All." Throughout that time, I got insulted, desecrated, and attacked in various ways. I was disallowed into businesses and even government buildings. I've never done a crime in my life, and yet suddenly I became like a criminal overnight with how I was being treated. Cops approaching me, business owners turning me away and telling me to leave while ironically masked people who look like they are about to steal stuff were allowed in. We really just had a nazi-like moment in America, something that hasn't happened since segregation [I ask you to research the parallels of socialism between civil rights and nazism. It is very similar for one reason]. And the masses are dumb to just how close we were to dictatorship communism.

 

[Pedrito0906]

Yeah, I'm not part of that "All." Throughout that time, I got insulted, desecrated, and attacked in various ways. I was disallowed into businesses and even government buildings. I've never done a crime in my life, and yet suddenly I became like a criminal overnight with how I was being treated. Cops approaching me, business owners turning me away and telling me to leave while ironically masked people who look like they are about to steal stuff were allowed in. We really just had a nazi-like moment in America, something that hasn't happened since segregation [I ask you to research the parallels of socialism between civil rights and nazism. It is very similar for one reason]. And the masses are dumb to just how close we were to dictatorship communism.

Take a look at that picture, I was born in Cuba, stayed there for 12 years. What happened with this Vax mandate was just a tiny small example of what dictatorship is.

I just fvcking hope people that were born with freedom and opportunities who want socialism and government controlling things get what they fvcking deserve and suffer the consequences of their stupidity.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Take a look at that picture, I was born in Cuba, stayed there for 12 years. What happened with this Vax mandate was just a tiny small example of what dictatorship is.

I just fvcking hope people that were born with freedom and opportunities who want socialism and government controlling things get what they fvcking deserve and suffer the consequences of their stupidity.

The problem is that we are going to suffer, too, cause they'll invite it and we have to endure it.

 

[Xenom0rph]

3 years on from the outbreak of COVID we have skyrocketing inflation, high food prices, high housing costs.....

All of this was caused by printing trillions of fiat currency and supply chain disruptions from lockdowns.....

If you're an individual that bought into the hysteria and advocated for lockdowns, then you had a hand in contributing to the hardships many people are facing today.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I'll never forget when they told everyone to stay locked up in your house for two weeks and it will all pass. Then they claimed it would take 4wks. More lies.

This is false. No one said the pandemic would only last 2-4 weeks.

Then masks were going to save you.

Masks reduce both spread and transmission. They still reduce spread and transmission.

Then the vaccine was going to save you.

The Covid-19 vaccine was and still is extremely effective at preventing death and hospitalization.

Then it didn't come from china. More lies.

I do not recall any official “proof” or explanation of the origin. We only ever got speculation, conspiracy theories, and opinions.

Screw all of you people who perpetuated those lies and helped to wreck our economy.

I don’t know why you think letting millions of Americans die is somehow better for the economy.

You should be ashamed. Your fear mongering leader Fauci should be executed.

Not cool to call for the murder of a fellow American over a political difference.

The only thing that was true was herd immunity. Always has been. But that's too much common sense.

The vaccine is what got us to herd immunity… and with fewer dead people.

It’s amazing how confidently wrong people can be.

 

[HaleyBaron]

The Covid-19 vaccine was and still is extremely effective at preventing death and hospitalization.

The vaccine has been doing the very opposite. Amazing how you're ignoring the articles about all the vaccine disabling and deaths. Isn't that what you complained about to someone like me earlier about ignoring covid deaths? The shoe's now on the other foot and you barely bat an eye. lol

Not cool to call for the murder of a fellow American over a political difference.

This is how I still suspect that Eye is from r/TwoChromosomes or similar area of the internet.

 

[EyeBRollin]

The people who say things like "it's time to move on" or "it's in the past" are the ones whose ego cannot admit that they got duped.

This is a truly weird take. Are you implying that people thought the pandemic would be permanent?