"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
"I want to get to know you"
- Thread starter Hurrican
- Start date
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Serialized3
Master Don Juan
"I wanna get to know ya -- I really wanna **** you, bay-beh"
I would not use this. I personally play minds games with girls through words and not answering my phone,thus being my push. Now I always leave the part of me "wanting" or "getting to get to know them" them in what I do physically,thus being my pull. Never say what you want,act what you want physically. The moment you express what you want verbally she knows you are hooked.Hurrican said:
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
WORKEROUTER
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Obviously by approaching her you want to get to know her. You don't need to tell her.
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I think it's a great line to use, if you have no other natural way of approaching the girl. It's simple, and sounds sincere. :rockon:
But here's the main problem, I see with it. While it will work as a opener, it could mess your game up with the target girl afterwords. Because it's giving her to much leverage. IE: She knows you want her already. It gives her no challenge, no mystery, and makes her, not you, the Prize to be won. :nono:
But don't sweat it, I think it will work great with one little tweak to the "line."
Here it is: Approach girl:
"Hi, I'm Hurrican. Would you like to get to know ME better?" :rockon:
See how, this sets the right frame? Hell, I think I'm going to try this opener this weekend.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
That is a solid opener that requires a continued solid followthrough. It is a chance to develop some rapport and setup a date.
Keep in mind that this opener is useful when you've already made eye contact, you smiled or had some sense that she wanted to speak with you in the first place. It's not a great idea for cases where she's reading a book and you tap her on the shoulder, she looks over to see your face glaring at hers "Hi, im bob, want to get to know me better?"
It does however generate several quick "How do you suggest I do that?" "Sure, what can you tell me about yourself? "I dont know. Should I?" "What is there to know about you?"
I completely agree. The only way to know and to develop experience is to get out and experiment with your theories. Even if they fail, you have just gained field experience that will serve you well in future.Bourne said:
There seems to be a lot of "I'd say this" or "I'd do that" kind of advice on this board, but what really counts is the past tense advice that says "I DID this" or "I TRIED that".