"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I want a long-term-relationship....

spax

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Hey,

I'm 17 and I've never had a proper relationship before, never even kissed a girl before.

But in the last few days, I've discovered something strange. I've become non-sexually motivated.

To me, now, I feel I want a girlfriend - a proper relationship.

A girlfriend who I can hug, hangout with, watch movies together, hold hands, go for walks etc. As stupid as it sounds, this is now what I want.

Before, all I wanted was "pvssy" and "ass", although I still like it, I feel getting it is just a bonus to the relationship - but nevertheless I still want a "cute" looking girl, I wont take anything.

Urgh, I guess i've just turned weak or really desperate.

I've spend the last few days gaming with my alpha-wingman and I can't even find one decent girl. :(

Oh well, such is life.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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spax

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Anybody who fulfills my criteria...

Cute, smart, funny
 

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Don't they have to kiss you first? Maybe go out on a date or two? Maybe have sex? I mean, all those things before you can commit to a long term relationship..
 

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Yeh yeh i know. But I feel that if I want to do those things, it would be better to do it with someone who I think I could keep going out with for a while.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I think you should just practice kissing first, or the things that lead up to that point..

That way, by the time you enter into long term relationship, you will have the tools you need for it..

Also, practice sex, and breaking up..
 

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Yeh, I guess so. I suppose "long term relationship" was the wrong term.

I just want to date someone on a deep level, and not just any old date.
 

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Do you consider yourself an active person? Do you have lots of hobbies and things to keep you busy? You're probably just looking for companionship cos you're lonely. A steady significant other.

Not much wrong with that, but try keep yourself busy with other stuff so you don't become too desperate, while at the same time talking to plenty of girls and keeping an eye out for someone you get along with particularly well. Then charm her and try to elevate things.

But it's important to take your time (in the search, deciding on someone and progressing into relationship). There's no rush. You're only 17.
 

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Yeh its probably because I'm lonely.
 

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Yo, spax.. You never kissed a girl, you never sexed a girl, nor I think you ever approached a girl, and if you did, you didn't escalate..


I think your feeling is not genuine.. The feeling you have is false, and not legitimate.. Reality is, IMO, you are afraid of failing with a woman.. This fear of failing, prevents you from escalating, kissing, and other things..


It is likely, that your mind does not think of failure as a positive thing that closes one door up, and opens another one up.. You should associate failure with getting better. :flowers:
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Na, I just don't meet enough. Go to all guys school. The chicks in the malls and shopping strips are all to old or young :-(
 

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I don't believe that there isn't enough women out there. I believe that you don't meet enough of them.


That all guy school.. Is it religious? Are you from a religious family where the prevailing believe is that sex before marriage is wrong? I'm not asking what you think about this, just if you are around people that think that way..
 

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Its a religious school but no issue about sex before marriage, and noone around really presents that thought.
 

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Na man. Im totally athiest. My family aint religious or anything, I just go to the school because it has really good choices and teachers. Its not uber-religious anyway.

I guess I'm probably just lonely and wanting someone to open up to and always be there.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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spax said:
Na man. Im totally athiest. My family aint religious or anything, I just go to the school because it has really good choices and teachers. Its not uber-religious anyway.

I guess I'm probably just lonely and wanting someone to open up to and always be there.
I thought 'athiests' were more independent and strong!! you are clearly not that! At the same time, you are just 17, so I can take that into consideration.
 
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