"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I want a long-term-relationship....

spax

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Hey,

I'm 17 and I've never had a proper relationship before, never even kissed a girl before.

But in the last few days, I've discovered something strange. I've become non-sexually motivated.

To me, now, I feel I want a girlfriend - a proper relationship.

A girlfriend who I can hug, hangout with, watch movies together, hold hands, go for walks etc. As stupid as it sounds, this is now what I want.

Before, all I wanted was "pvssy" and "ass", although I still like it, I feel getting it is just a bonus to the relationship - but nevertheless I still want a "cute" looking girl, I wont take anything.

Urgh, I guess i've just turned weak or really desperate.

I've spend the last few days gaming with my alpha-wingman and I can't even find one decent girl. :(

Oh well, such is life.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Anybody who fulfills my criteria...

Cute, smart, funny
 

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Don't they have to kiss you first? Maybe go out on a date or two? Maybe have sex? I mean, all those things before you can commit to a long term relationship..
 

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Yeh yeh i know. But I feel that if I want to do those things, it would be better to do it with someone who I think I could keep going out with for a while.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I think you should just practice kissing first, or the things that lead up to that point..

That way, by the time you enter into long term relationship, you will have the tools you need for it..

Also, practice sex, and breaking up..
 

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Yeh, I guess so. I suppose "long term relationship" was the wrong term.

I just want to date someone on a deep level, and not just any old date.
 

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Do you consider yourself an active person? Do you have lots of hobbies and things to keep you busy? You're probably just looking for companionship cos you're lonely. A steady significant other.

Not much wrong with that, but try keep yourself busy with other stuff so you don't become too desperate, while at the same time talking to plenty of girls and keeping an eye out for someone you get along with particularly well. Then charm her and try to elevate things.

But it's important to take your time (in the search, deciding on someone and progressing into relationship). There's no rush. You're only 17.
 

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Yeh its probably because I'm lonely.
 

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Yo, spax.. You never kissed a girl, you never sexed a girl, nor I think you ever approached a girl, and if you did, you didn't escalate..


I think your feeling is not genuine.. The feeling you have is false, and not legitimate.. Reality is, IMO, you are afraid of failing with a woman.. This fear of failing, prevents you from escalating, kissing, and other things..


It is likely, that your mind does not think of failure as a positive thing that closes one door up, and opens another one up.. You should associate failure with getting better. :flowers:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Na, I just don't meet enough. Go to all guys school. The chicks in the malls and shopping strips are all to old or young :-(
 

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I don't believe that there isn't enough women out there. I believe that you don't meet enough of them.


That all guy school.. Is it religious? Are you from a religious family where the prevailing believe is that sex before marriage is wrong? I'm not asking what you think about this, just if you are around people that think that way..
 

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Its a religious school but no issue about sex before marriage, and noone around really presents that thought.
 

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Na man. Im totally athiest. My family aint religious or anything, I just go to the school because it has really good choices and teachers. Its not uber-religious anyway.

I guess I'm probably just lonely and wanting someone to open up to and always be there.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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spax said:
Na man. Im totally athiest. My family aint religious or anything, I just go to the school because it has really good choices and teachers. Its not uber-religious anyway.

I guess I'm probably just lonely and wanting someone to open up to and always be there.
I thought 'athiests' were more independent and strong!! you are clearly not that! At the same time, you are just 17, so I can take that into consideration.
 
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