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I Have Anger Problems/I Don't Know What To Do

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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I would personally start going to see a therapist. People don't just get angry, there's an underlying reason. And just because you go to one therapist and u don't like the person try another until you find a good match for you, good luck and be happy
 

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Tenacity, I find it quite odd that you cannot secure an attractive girl, with good finances, and no kids.

I have literally dated hundreds of these kinds of women. So either you are not being forthcoming with who you are actually meeting or you have significant personality flaws that repel women.

I lean more toward the latter. You don't seem like a class act.
 

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Tenacity, I find it quite odd that you cannot secure an attractive girl, with good finances, and no kids.

I have literally dated hundreds of these kinds of women.
And yet you and Slick, who keep repeating this, refuse to talk about where you meet 100s - 1,000s of these types of women over and over, because you want to remain anonymous.

Also as I mentioned, I target black women mostly, are you meeting 100s - 1,000s of black women like this over and over and over? Attractive, no kids, good finances and WITH A GOOD ATTITUDE? Where?

So either you are not being forthcoming with who you are actually meeting or you have significant personality flaws that repel women.
Those are two options, another option is that I could be in a bad geographical area to find the type of woman I'm looking for. Can you tell me why is it that you always refuse to list this as a possibility? The fact is that a lot of women with the criteria I list, have moved to the South and are surely no longer in Michigan, so I'm dealing with the issue of there being a scarcity problem out of the gate. Again, this is a FACT, look up the demographics of Metro (suburban) Detroit. There's just not a lot of black women in general that fit the criteria I'm looking for over here.
 
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I lean more toward the latter. You don't seem like a class act.
- From all I know is that I have anger issues, but those issues push women away I already GET. Those issues usually come out on a girl I already have, I don't walk up to people I don't know and go off.

- Legend when it comes to a Personality flaw that could repel women away, you do realize that I have to actually interact or come across the woman FIRST before it can push her away right? In order words, you are saying there's something else going on with my Personality that's doing it...okay. Well, I would have to MEET attractive black women with no kids, good finances and with no fickle/bad attitude shyt, DISPLAY my Personality, and the chick say "fvck off". I very RARELY run across attractive black women with no kids and good finances, and when I do....they are usually very fickle, or have some sort of attitude problem where I will "kick it/chill" with them just to try to fvck, but I can't do anything serious because she's just full of drama and other shady shyt most of the time.

For some weird/strange reason, Legend guys like you in this thread refuse to say anything in relation to the market or geographical area that might be adding to the issue. It's very weird....it's like a Sales Manager pushing his reps out into a bad territory or to call on dead leads, then scolding them for not hitting quota.

I LIVE here Legend and I'm not the only person who lives near here that contributed to this thread (LiveFree) that has reported BACK to you on how this geographical area has some issues within it. There are also other guys who don't post on Sosuave, who can create an account and tell you the same thing.
 

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Sure, demographics play a role but not to the extent where 15% of the top women dwindle down to 0.

Here's a little clue my friend: women have a bad attitude when they don't want to keep you around. In others words ...

YOU are not their top priority.
 

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Sure, demographics play a role but not to the extent where 15% of the top women dwindle down to 0.

Here's a little clue my friend: women have a bad attitude when they don't want to keep you around. In others words ...

YOU are not their top priority.
Have you EVER dated black women?
 

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You have a goal. Stop whining. Stop blaming. Stop justifying. If you hit a brick wall, adjust your game plan. Go after it.
I guess the answer is No, you haven't dated black women that much. So maybe you should stop trying to get up here preaching like you know everything when you don't?

I appreciate your advice but it's just getting redundant man because you guys clearly don't understand what I'm going through over here in my area.
 

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Go to Atlanta or go to Memphis. I thought of you at a business conference last month. Met an attractive, self assured black woman about your age (tall, thin, long straightened hair, pretty face, stylishly dressed, slim but athletic figure and curves in the proper places) and I thought about you. She was single and from Memphis. She's in a position that would indicate she's successful.

Take a few days off and take a field trip. I bet you can answer the question about whether or not you have a geography problem in a single weekend in either of those two cities.

Once you determine if geography is an issue (or not) then you can refocus on the things you need to do. Even in a target rich environment YOU have to be someone the sought after targets want. If it's the geography, then move!!
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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If the issue is you are a big game hunter looking for lions in the Arctic, clearly the odds are against you. Do you stay in the Arctic and continually tell people how rare it is to see lions there? Do you keep looking for lions in the arctic, waiting and hoping someday they will appear in abundance there? Do you leave and go where the lions are? Do you decide you'd rather stay in the arctic choose to be satisfied with hunting polar bears or something else? What choices do you make and what actions do you take, to be self responsible so that you are happy and fulfilled in your own life?
Well...if you REMEMBER.....

When I first began this thread and speculated that this might have been a market/geographical issue, it was people like YOU and Legend, and T.O., who said it WASN'T a market issue. You said it was something I wasn't doing personality wise.

After reading your comments, I went back to the "mirror" and couldn't see anything that personality wise could have been contributing to this issue. I came back and reported this information, then YOU GUYS still continued with the "it's your personality" mantra.

Now you are finally starting to come around to this might (not 100% sure yet, but it just MIGHT) be a geographical problem. I'm glad we are getting somewhere because before you guys completely swore off this issue being anything related to market dynamics.

Also Legend you need to date black women before you comment on how it is dating them. I'm not going to get up here and bash black women, but many black men across this country will tell you that dating black women can be more of a challenge than dating other types of races due to their attitude and HOST of other problems. Matter of fact, I'll let a couple of black women tell you themselves:



 
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Quite the opposite. If you read my first post in this thread, I had stated to date outside of Flint, MI and to stop dating black women for increased sampling.

After reading 15 pages of you whine, my prescription changed: your specific problem is not demographics, it's YOU.
 

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Quite the opposite. If you read my first post in this thread, I had stated to date outside of Flint, MI and to stop dating black women for increased sampling.

After reading 15 pages of you whine, my prescription changed: your specific problem is not demographics, it's YOU.
I'M NOT IN FLINT, MICHIGAN.

And look, you don't have to respond to me anymore, got it? I'll update this thread and talk to myself, none of you guys who have these "issues" with my analysis or outlook have to say a damn thing to me in this thread. I'll talk to myself......
 

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Irrelevant.

On your second point: you are on a public forum. I have made logical arguments, rhetoric, and suggestions to your problem, for which YOU are requesting help. Don't let emotion cloud your understanding brother (is it ok to call you brother if I'm white or is that too a black "thing"?)
 

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Irrelevant.

On your second point: you are on a public forum. I have made logical arguments, rhetoric, and suggestions to your problem, for which YOU are requesting help. Don't let emotion cloud your understanding brother (is it ok to call you brother if I'm white or is that too a black "thing"?)
Listen, all I'm saying is that when I get up here and post....I'm posting to help Tenacity. It's sort of like another mirror, I'm not interested in being some "role model" or anything of the sort. So if you feel as though my ramblings are too much, too extreme, bytch-like and whining, then like I said Legend...you don't have to interact with me on my threads.

I personally don't care if I get on one of my threads and come off "bytch-like" or whining, I'd rather do it here (which is like a personal journal to me) than to do it OUT THERE. You apparently have an issue with the "whining" as you call it, so I'm telling you that you don't have to participate if it's a problem.

But I'm going to speak my mind on my thread, if that comes off as whining then so be it.
 

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1) You have your pics, occupation, education, and specific location (was it Flint?) pasted all over this forum. To anyone who wanted to find who you really are, it wouldn't be that difficult. Ergo, you are already OUT THERE.

2) Whine all you like. Whining only aggrandizes the issue and reinforces your conditioned helplessness.
 

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1) You have your pics, occupation, education, and specific location (was it Flint?) pasted all over this forum. To anyone who wanted to find who you really are, it wouldn't be that difficult. Ergo, you are already OUT THERE.

2) Whine all you like. Whining only aggrandizes the issue and reinforces your conditioned helplessness.
No, I don't live in Flint. I've already said 1,000 times where I stay at. And yes, if the posts come off as whining, STOP replying to them like I said. If I'm a "lost cause", then do me a favor and just let me RANT to myself on my own thread.

Deal? Are you done?
 

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At least you've finally acknowledged your true intentions, which as you've said are to RANT.

You've never had any real desire to change.

If you want to RANT and have your world view justified daily just join a MGTOW forum and be done with it.
 
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