"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I had attention and luck from women, now that I'm in my mid 30s, nothing

Jason9

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From my late teens until around 31 I had a lot of attention from women. I didn't know what to say and never took my chances. A lot of chance encounters I never took.

I was called sexy and hot.

One time at the park when I was 27, there were these three attractive women around 19 years old deliberately by choice decided to come towards me and said I am sexy amongst themselves as they were close, I was preparing for sports practice so I didn't nothing.

Another time I was going to my train depot and I had to catch my train, there were two younger women who was dancing towards me and danced to me, I didn't do nothing as I was catching the train.

I really regret not taking my chances.

I'm in my mid 30s now and in the last few years, absolutely nothing. On dating apps, I only get swiped by an attractive women once per month, otherwise they are below average looking women who swipe me. I don't mind simple looking women, but I don't get ok looking women or even simple looking women swipe me.

A lot of below average looking women who swipe me on dating apps.

I relied on chance encounters as many of it happened before as you read.

If I was in my 20s and go to a club, id probably expect women to make eye contact with me first, then I'd go in.

I don't get any eye contact or chance encounters for the last few years as I used to.

I've been very lonely and isolated in the last few years.

I feel depressed as I get older.

I feel very very sad.

I don't know what to do.
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Poonstra

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I feel very very sad.
This here is your problem. People can smell it a mile away and nobody likes a downer.

I get the impression that you’ve relied too heavily on your looks, when you should have been using that time to build something meaningful for yourself. But I might be wrong.

Things won't change until build a life that makes YOU happy.

Don't have a job? Get one.
Don't like your current job? Change it.
Overweight? Loose some fat.
Skinny? Work out and grow some muscle.
Think about what you always wanted to do and work towards that.
Get some hobbies and develop some interest so you become interesting to talk to.
Become social, mingle. Cut people who are a burden or who put you down out of you life.

And somehow, after you done all of that, a chick will appear and decide that you are fun and interesting and stick around.

If you don't want a chick that sticks around and just want sex, the same template applies.
 

Jor-El

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This here is your problem. People can smell it a mile away and nobody likes a downer.

I get the impression that you’ve relied too heavily on your looks, when you should have been using that time to build something meaningful for yourself. But I might be wrong.

Things won't change until build a life that makes YOU happy.

Don't have a job? Get one.
Don't like your current job? Change it.
Overweight? Loose some fat.
Skinny? Work out and grow some muscle.
Think about what you always wanted to do and work towards that.
Get some hobbies and develop some interest so you become interesting to talk to.
Become social, mingle. Cut people who are a burden or who put you down out of you life.

And somehow, after you done all of that, a chick will appear and decide that you are fun and interesting and stick around.

If you don't want a chick that sticks around and just want sex, the same template applies.
This^^ Its just doing something isnt it,anything to better your situation. Sat around moping in misery will bring more of the same
 

BaronOfHair

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From my late teens until around 31 I had a lot of attention from women. I didn't know what to say and never took my chances. A lot of chance encounters I never took.

I was called sexy and hot.
Physiologically and chronologically speaking , you're no longer the boy/near-child that you were, a few years after HS wrapped. The time has come to learn what to say and take calculated risks on a regular basis

Exhibits these basic traits of manhood, and you'll likely be more attractive, both to women and everyone else
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Jason9

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I'm still pissed off, I dress very well when I go out, I just don't have the luck anymore. Neither on dating apps.

Once again, thank you all for your insights and suggestions, I'll follow them up.

I'm starting to hit the gym, lifting weights. I'll continue with my day job while looking to study for a masters degree part time. Which there are a lot of graduate jobs in that field.

I like going to movies, plays, have more hobbies.
 
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