"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
I actually got a hot match on OLD. What to do?
- Thread starter RichardTheFrog
- Start date
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
BeExcellent
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Do it.
RichardTheFrog
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Match.
djthiago1
Master Don Juan
Don't take it personal, she'll probably unmatch after 10 messages.
I get matched with babes daily, know how many dates i've gotten with these hotties? Around 0.
Like some guy said on this forum once (paraphrasing) : "Girls on OLD only want uberchads"
You'll have much better luck if you lower your standards juuuust a little a bit, i'm 23 and i'm nearly giving up on hot girls haha.
“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
RichardTheFrog
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But I'm rich, though. Or I will be.
I already know she's just a little girl. She's only 18. I don't take her too seriously.
I can't force myself to like ugly girls.
djthiago1
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Not saying ugly, just telling you to avoid the models.
RichardTheFrog
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Why? I'm in their league and it has nothing to do with looks.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6dktty66w0bhxtn/Screenshot_2018-03-20-17-03-39.png?dl=0
That's an 18 year old kid.
djthiago1
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She looks like easy sex, and a little nuts too, sadly, my kinda girl.
RichardTheFrog
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So how do I get the easy sex?
She doesn't look crazy to me. I'm crazy as fvck. I've been to State Mental Hospitals, etc. Which is another reason why I'm in the league of 10s
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
90% of matches even if you had hot profile are:
- bots
- attention whoring teens promoting instagram or not promoting
- girls that will even message u first but wont actually agree for date
I think i get only 10% matches to date
and recently much more than before.. before tinder just made me insecure af lol now its actually ego boost for me when i stopped autoswipping
but i have bad feeling the better looking girl is the more b1tchy she is. i hate it
imo hot girls on there look only for 10/10 men. the attention they get must be ridiculous. i get a headache if 10 girls are texting me in the same time. imagine about such hot girls.
i wouldnt even text 10/10 girl. in fact i swipe left all 9-10/10 girls
djthiago1
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Go out, be positive and fun, and don't be all over them? Every 10 girl i go out with, at least 8 want sex for a second "date" and i don't even kiss or touch them on the first, EVER.
Conquer the head and the body will follow.
RichardTheFrog
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Yea, and the reality is that I have tons of other things to do. Like that million dollar business I'm trying to get off the ground.
But I think I still come off as needy in these situations.
What would YOU send as the first message?
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Uberchads...hahaha that was my terminology I believe
I'd say instead of lowering standards, go for cute girls in RL rather than OLD or Tinder/Bumble, whatever. I'm only using OLD at the moment because I'm so bloody busy it's my only option. But it knocks your "attractiveness rating" down at least 5 points with most girls IMO. If you're 8/10 in real life, girls will treat you like a 3/10. Girls online are so unrealistic and tend to be damaged or narcissists in my experience.
Whereas in RL you immediately stand out just for talking to a girl, and you're going to come across as attractive if you've worked on your physique etc. regardless of whether the light is catching you right and all the BS that has to swing your way for a photo to look as good as you do in person.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Bible_Belt
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If she turns out to be a tranny, don't beat yourself up too much about it. That sort of thing is common in Florida, and it could happen to anyone.
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I'm crazy as fvck. I've been to State Mental Hospitals, etc. Which is another reason why I'm in the league of 10s
This should be on your dating profile. I once had one along these same lines. It was totally sarcastic and funny, but that didn't matter. It attracted a lot of women because they saw it as humorous and I think many could relate.
This should be on your dating profile. I once had one along these same lines. It was totally sarcastic and funny, but that didn't matter. It attracted a lot of women because they saw it as humorous and I think many could relate.
RichardTheFrog
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Instead of starting a new thread, I'll post about a different match I got.
I typed guru's opener... She responded with...
"Hey there. I'm Jo"
What would you say next?
I know this seems obvious, but I'm trying to break this down to the basics. This is Tinder. I'm used to SA where it's okay to be more forward. There's nothing in guru's texts that makes sense to say in this situation.
I typed guru's opener... She responded with...
"Hey there. I'm Jo"
What would you say next?
I know this seems obvious, but I'm trying to break this down to the basics. This is Tinder. I'm used to SA where it's okay to be more forward. There's nothing in guru's texts that makes sense to say in this situation.