"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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how many text exchanges would you do roughly ( on average ) to do all of the above . Like total texts both sides..

hard to buffer against instant smv issues in person tho hey…
(Just sayin..)
Or as women call it “ that chemistry” or “romantic connection” lol

I’ve started implementing my new screening game and just sent out a bunch of sexy voice memos today , to try speed up their selection, I shall see what happens and report here.
My process is a little longer but it's also somewhat templated so it's not that much work. Maybe around 15 or so exchanges in the app or site and then twice that via phone text but there needs to be consistent high interest, including sexual high interest, that grows throughout the interaction. A lot of the same lines and moves are used with different women at similar points in the interaction, but the flow must be organic feeling. Not that big of a deal assuming one isn't a hardcore autist lol.

The point is to establish a modicum of "chemistry" and "romantic connection" before the in-person meet to give yourself leeway. It can be done, because I do it all the time lol.

Ideally you want the chick masturbating to you before meeting and thinking of you as a hot boyfriend/lover prospect before she even sees you in the flesh. This won't work with jaded/hurt women and the more notorious of the serial daters and hopeless romantics, so you do have to screen.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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My process is a little longer but it's also somewhat templated so it's not that much work. Maybe around 15 or so exchanges in the app or site and then twice that via phone text but there needs to be consistent high interest, including sexual high interest, that grows throughout the interaction. A lot of the same lines and moves are used with different women at similar points in the interaction, but the flow must be organic feeling. Not that big of a deal assuming one isn't a hardcore autist lol.

The point is to establish a modicum of "chemistry" and "romantic connection" before the in-person meet to give yourself leeway. It can be done, because I do it all the time lol.

Ideally you want the chick masturbating to you before meeting and thinking of you as a hot boyfriend/lover prospect before she even sees you in the flesh. This won't work with jaded/hurt women and the more notorious of the serial daters and hopeless romantics, so you do have to screen.
ok do you have an examples or receipts I could use for reference pls thanks.
 

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Too much nonsense on app's the juice is not worth the squeeze

Go to the gym same time every day for a couple months become a familiar face scope out the regular baddies that go same time as you and then make small talk

Once you've done the icebreaker it becomes very easy to chat to them then you can slow burn them.

Women generally much prefer the mysterious interactions trying to find out bits of information about you thats how real attraction builds and if you do it right she starts to look forward to seeing you.

You can do this in any IRL location where you see the same people frequently I've even done it in public libraries

Not this bullsh1t on the apps where its like

" hey your hot -do you like my photo - yea / no- lets go on a date " :rofl: - recipe for disappointment lol
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Too much nonsense on app's the juice is not worth the squeeze

Go to the gym same time every day for a couple months become a familiar face scope out the regular baddies that go same time as you and then make small talk

Once you've done the icebreaker it becomes very easy to chat to them then you can slow burn them.

Women generally much prefer the mysterious interactions trying to find out bits of information about you thats how real attraction builds and if you do it right she starts to look forward to seeing you.

You can do this in any IRL location where you see the same people frequently I've even done it in public libraries

Not this bullsh1t on the apps where its like

" hey your hot -do you like my photo - yea / no- lets go on a date " :rofl: - recipe for disappointment lol
mmm yeah. The social circle /gym is a strong strategy.

but re the last part .. apps bullsh1t etc;

I got 15 or so lays Jan-April this year off apps.
App game is a bit different as the comms are firstly and crucially the written word.
so it’s gonna rely a lot on a guys banter and what he can do with the written word. Plus voicememos. Or onto phonecalls. His voice tonalities also.

That’s given he gets attraction off his pics that is.
 

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Too much nonsense on app's the juice is not worth the squeeze

Go to the gym same time every day for a couple months become a familiar face scope out the regular baddies that go same time as you and then make small talk

Once you've done the icebreaker it becomes very easy to chat to them then you can slow burn them.

Women generally much prefer the mysterious interactions trying to find out bits of information about you thats how real attraction builds and if you do it right she starts to look forward to seeing you.

You can do this in any IRL location where you see the same people frequently I've even done it in public libraries

Not this bullsh1t on the apps where its like

" hey your hot -do you like my photo - yea / no- lets go on a date " :rofl: - recipe for disappointment lol
Good call, I sort of have this at my gym now. Going at the same time is key. Everyone becomes a familiar face. The 6am weekday crowd also become the 8am weekend crowd, and you can filter for the weekend warriors that drop out.

Any other places that are similar? I don't drink so propping up bars at midnight isn't my thing...
 

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mmm yeah. The social circle /gym is a strong strategy.

but re the last part and apps bullsh1t.
I got 15 or so lays Jan-April this year off apps.
App game is a bit different as the comms are firstly and crucially the written word.
so it’s gonna rely a lot on a guys banter and what he can do with the written word. Plus voicememos. Given he gets attraction off his pics that is.

But the women on them are generally awful Bottom of barrel quality

If you're just dating to fvck on an app you might as well cut out the middle man and get an escort
 

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Good call, I sort of have this at my gym now. Going at the same time is key. Everyone becomes a familiar face. The 6am weekday crowd also become the 8am weekend crowd, and you can filter for the weekend warriors that drop out.

Any other places that are similar? I don't drink so propping up bars at midnight isn't my thing...
Not my scene but I have friends who are religious that pick women up in churches

I'm told theres a lot of nutcases but depends what you're into
 

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But the women on them are generally awful Bottom of barrel quality

If you're just dating to fvck on an app you might as well cut out the middle man and get an escort
lol. No I get these ch1cks for FREE baby.
(When I do)
And have had a few quite decent /sexy ones too.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Good call, I sort of have this at my gym now. Going at the same time is key. Everyone becomes a familiar face. The 6am weekday crowd also become the 8am weekend crowd, and you can filter for the weekend warriors that drop out.

Any other places that are similar? I don't drink so propping up bars at midnight isn't my thing...
yeah dude…
But how many are you actually pulling?
Or have pulled in the past w this strategy?
Otherwise this is just theorising and wishful thinking.
Just sayin.

also in addition - had you spoken to other guys who pull from the gym circle strategy?

like. Is there good evidence it’s actually a thing..
 

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lol. No I get these ch1cks for FREE baby.
(When I do)
And have had a few quite decent /sexy ones too.
I'm sure I read that you said in another post you've spent something like 1-2K taking these out on dates ?

thats without the time spent talking about stuff you couldn't give a sh1t about lol
 

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yeah dude…
But how many are you actually pulling?
Or have pulled in the past w this strategy?
Otherwise this is just theorising and wishful thinking.
Just sayin.

also in addition - had you spoken to other guys who pull from the gym circle strategy?

like. Is there good evidence it’s actually a thing..
It's long game strategy bro and I've only got back in to looking recently.
 

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It's long game strategy bro and I've only got back in to looking recently.
yep. We’ll make sure and ask around other dudes IRL and see if there’s any evidence this is a viable strategy would be my advice.

And be mindful that there’s a lot of stuff women perceive as pvssy begging. seriously.

Including Day game cold approaching under any cover of “I just had to come over and tell you you’re cute “ and also “ I want to try connect with you over xyz. “ connect with commonalities first etc.

women see this as an obvious, weak play.
The guy with the bowl out , asking “please miss , can I have some pvss?”

my 2c.
 

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Well well well..

guess who forgot about the Hinge Police…
better wipe all that egg from my face now .lol. IMG_1214.png
 
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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