Hypergamy doesn’t exactly work

[SargeMaximus]

You are making the assumption that she should want what you think is the right choice. A mistake many men make.

What you think a woman "should" want is irrelevant. It's what they actually want that matters.

No that’s my point. I’m going by the “women choose the fittest male” paradigm that I learned from pua. It’s not what I think she should want, it’s what pua told me she would want

 

[BackInTheGame78]

No that’s my point. I’m going by the “women choose the fittest male” paradigm that I learned from pua. It’s not what I think she should want, it’s what pua told me she would want

You assume "fittest" is your/their definition of that instead of hers which may be different. "Fittest" is subjective in many ways and each woman will have their own version of what that means.

 

[The Duke]

Since when did a woman ever know what she wanted? And if she did, it likely changed a week later.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Since when did a woman ever know what she wanted? And if she did, it likely changed a week later.

This @BackInTheGame78 I’m actually surprised you have the stance you do but I’ll agree to disagree and leave it at that.

Because the provider is always more important than the lover. The provider is the rock and security to their lives. The woman will always choose the provider over the lover. You were the lover. A woman isn't above having children with both the provider and lover. She gains the security of the provider if she has his kids. It guarantees his investment in her. She will still succumb to her desire for better genes. Which she did with talking her cuck husband into letting you bang her.

Yeah I’ll admit it’s my dream to have kids with a girl and have her husband raise them so I don’t have to.

 

[member160292]

Yeah I’ll admit it’s my dream to have kids with a girl and have her husband raise them so I don’t have to.

Pretty toxic mindset if you ask me. Quite telling of your personal accountability.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

This @BackInTheGame78 I’m actually surprised you have the stance you do but I’ll agree to disagree and leave it at that.




Yeah I’ll admit it’s my dream to have kids with a girl and have her husband raise them so I don’t have to.

Why? Different women prioritize different things in a guy. Cookie cutter, one size fits all narratives have no basis in reality.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Nature is ruthless. His desire to procreate is typical human nature that's hard wired in most.... Screw "personal accountability"... Getting genes to the next generation is more important...

This man gets it

 

[Gamisch]

Nature is ruthless. His desire to procreate is typical human nature that's hard wired in most.... Screw "personal accountability"... Getting genes to the next generation is more important...

Are they mutually exclusive? Why cant a man both pass his genes AND take accountability?

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Are they mutually exclusive? Why cant a man both pass his genes AND take accountability?

The problem is more in the rigidity of his belief system. Real life is far more fluid, OP is missing a lot of opportunities due to this.

 

[Divorced w 3]

We’re about to find out .. the 23 year old hot piece of ass from Saturday just looked into with yours truly on LinkedIn. It says I’m a partner at an international bank and it also says I have 3 kids…We were in date scheduling mode about an hour ago. It got quiet which was fine since it was 10:20 pm and she had replied to me within 5 minutes - but the LinkedIn was interesting. Let’s see how this works out. Popcorn

 

[Divorced w 3]

What's wrong with a man wanting to have kids, but not raise them? Just have them so his genes live on... I've too contemplated this... I don't know if I want to raise kids, but my instincts urge me to have them...

Your genetics will never pass on anyway. Don’t sweat it.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Your weak frame is showing... Getting offended enough to try and hit with a low blow...

It’s a statement of fact. Nature takes care of itself.

 

[Gamisch]

It’s a statement of fact. Nature takes care of itself.

When men hear " alpha Fuxxx beta buxxx" they get scared and wanna be the A Fuxx at all costs. Next thing they do want kids but without the hassle of having kids.

When you actually have kids you know what is like to be called "papa". Its an amazing feeling. I can't imagine leaving my kids without a father simply because I am....me?

 

[Divorced w 3]

You're being presumptuous. It has nothing to do with "alpha". I'm simply stating that the urge to impregnate women is gnawing at most men, whether they want to raise kids or not....

Right but Darwinism doesn’t want your seed kid

 

[The Duke]

You're being presumptuous. It has nothing to do with "alpha". I'm simply stating that the urge to impregnate women is gnawing at most men, whether they want to raise kids or not....

Its primal. You need to control those urges. We aren't animals.

Humans are more sophisticated and have developed communication/emotional skills to control these things.

I want to fuhk about every hot girl I see, but I don't act on it just because I feel the urge.

 

[Gamisch]

You're being presumptuous. It has nothing to do with "alpha". I'm simply stating that the urge to impregnate women is gnawing at most men, whether they want to raise kids or not....

Ofcourse it is I feel ya. But most men (at least I know I do) also would like to have some sort of influence in their kids life.

The urge to reproduce is natural. In fact, reproducing and having sex are the same thing technically. Every woman you ever slept with(unprotected)could have your child. C'mon. The urge to protect your offspring is also natural. If that's not there you gotta seriously check yourself.

 

[Bingo-Player]

Hypergamy theory is a little too linear for human logic in some cases it will probably ring true in others not so much

Biggest problem is not all women are shallow or stupid enough to merely commit for a mans wealth or status

Conversely as men we can't really just commit to a woman simply because she is attractive ( although many do)

At the core of a relationship you have to actually enjoy the other persons company or you are in for a whole lot of boredom , frustration , confusion

We are not robots than can be programmed via protocol you can't just write a script that says "you must be attracted to the man with the most money"

Its so stupid to even view attraction / connection like that

 

[Divorced w 3]

True, but at the same time, I may not have the time to be mr. picky when it comes to learning enough game and how to play it on hard mode(marriage) so that I won't end up bent over and fvcked in the ass (like divorcedw/3). He CLEARLY didn't know how to play on hard mode which is why he ended up divorcedw/3... I may not have the money for those consequences and not willing to spend the time until my mid 50s with worrying about whether I'll go to jail for missing a payment... I'd rather impregnate a woman and disappear... I'll be damned if I let anyone's moral opinion guide me to not passing my genes on, and die with me after half a million years.

You’re missing the bigger point. I have no problem , and will continue not to have problems, with women wanting to have my children. The backstory to my failed marriage is not something that needs to be explained or relevant to the fact that you are 34 and still trying to figure out how to get in a woman’s pants. I had a pregnancy scare at 18. I had two kids by the time I was 34. And that was because I waited. I also take care of them, provide for them, and create every opportunity for them to learn, grow and hopefully be successful. I’m also fit, highly attractive , highly successful,intelligent and sociable. You exhibit nor do you seem to have literally any of those qualities. Nature does not want your seed. You could attempt to go impregnate someone in a Walmart setting, for sure, and that would be a natural setting for you to meet a mate of similar caliber. You should have stumbled into a pregnancy scare at this point but you clearly have no genetics worth passing on.

also, next time, tag or quote me, or keep my name out of your beta, mom’s basement dwelling mouth.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Quit perpetrating.... A man with those qualities wouldn't have ended up divorce raped like you, let alone seeking out a site like this.... Why are you here Mr. I'mCharmingAttractiveAndSmartEnoughForWomenExceptMyExWife.....Don't answer... I don't care.

Head game, and I’m single with three kids. Nor did I get raped. I filed, I have a restraining order on her, and she’s getting virtually no financial assistance.

I need and want technical support on the game / frame. I am playing chess and you’re still unwrapping your first condom.

You do care. You slid my name in on a long post without a tag thinking I wouldn’t see it.

you’re also too dumb to know what a genetic test is and that child support law doesn’t care about whether or not you’re married or don’t feel like paying for your kids. You will get sanctioned and the court will direct deposit whatever meager hourly salary and welfare deposit you make directly to her. In other words, again, nature wins.

Improper use of the word perpetrating, sir.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Even though is ****ty what happened to you with your marriage, I sincerely salute you for not being another dead beat dad who was just the sperm donor and disappeared.

Cc: @DonJuanjr