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Tell us about how to deal with the shy one, and how to know shy vs girl game.Unless of course you run into a really shy woman.
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Tell us about how to deal with the shy one, and how to know shy vs girl game.Unless of course you run into a really shy woman.
If by "initiating", they simply mean displaying positive body language, then I don't find it strange either.I don't find this strange at all.
Yep the whole "game" aspect of it makes my head spin. So ****ing dumb but we have no choice but to "play along" if we wanna get laid.If by "initiating", they simply mean displaying positive body language, then I don't find it strange either.
It's interesting that women can capture attention through positive body language, when PUA theory tells men they should display disinterested body language.
And if men were allowed to communicate directly, instead of having to appear indifferent.Things however would be so much more efficient and simple if women communicated directly.
You have to develop a sense of when you are getting a green light and take things in small steps.The repercussions for men are high when you "guess" and you're wrong. Women can practically grab a stranger's **** and it would be welcomed, yet the onus is completely on men to make the move.
In 2020, women dropping subtle hints is not enough. By now, they should feel "empowered" enough to open their mouths and speak up when they are interested in a man instead of relying on him to take all the risk.
It's apparent it's been women's ego keeping them from making a bold move, not the other way around.![]()
Seduction and getting attention are two different things.This idea of women initiating 90% of seductions keeps sticking in my head. How does that square with the idea that women are inundated with male attention and thirsty betas constantly trying to get with them?
I would say nothing counts if a guy initiates and it isn’t openly received. Nothing can happen if the woman isn’t going to hit the tennis ball back to the guy. Can’t seduce something that is closed.Look at all the OLD stories where women are bombarded with 100x the offers men get (or whatever it is)? Or is this just a case where if an unwanted male initiates, it doesn't count?
Yea it’s definitely this.Now if you say women initiate 90% of successful seductions, I could believe that.
Small steps are good. Holding her hand is good. You're walking side by side in the park or down the street. Take her hand and keep walking. Look at her a moment with a confident and reassuring smile.You have to develop a sense of when you are getting a green light and take things in small steps.
No woman is going to "me too" you for standing close to her. And if a girl is happy to let you stand really close to her, hold her hand and so on, chances are she'll let you do more.
As for women taking the initiative... that's scheduled for 2052.
It means she is dripping wet just looking at you and while you are out doing things all she can think about is what it would feel like for her to have your c0ck in her mouth...Can someone please break down for me what it means when a woman has such high interest in you that you can bed her without game? What is going on in her head? Why would she have such a strong interest? What would you compare the arousal she is feeling to? How do you know to have the confidence that you can't **** it up? In my experience, I always feel like my chances with being intimate with women are hanging on on by a thread. Like the conversation is so fragile that one wrong word, or the slightest mistake will **** everything up. What gives you the peace of mind, that her attraction is strong and that the leeway is large.
I feel like just having the peace of mind that little to no game will be effective would make things much easier for me. Like, knowing how much it takes to get the girl to bed. Knowing it's a downhill ride and not an uphill battle yah know?
Get that "way higher than you in SMV" crap out of your head. You are her type and she enjoyed you, that's what matters. You might have a low evaluation of yourself.I got a story about woman making it easy when they like you.
I'm the new guy in the classroom, right away i spot a nice asian thin chick, she sees me aswell and we keep eye contact. Later i approached her and we shared a few words, before getting home my smartphone rings and it is her sending me a friend request on facebook, which i accepted. I asked her out, she went with me, we shared a good time. But the thing is, in that moment, this girl was way above my SMV and she made it so easy for me to ask her out and make up with her. There is a old saying which i read somewhere in the internet that goes: "when a woman wants to **** you, she'll cross the sahara desert for it".
Yes sir, thanks for the input.Get that "way higher than you in SMV" crap out of your head. You are her type and she enjoyed you, that's what matters. You might have a low evaluation of yourself.
Thanks for sharing that story. When you asked her out via facebook, did you feel 100% confident you would get laid? Did you feel 100% confident she would say yes or was is 50/50, or 10/90?There is a old saying which i read somewhere in the internet that goes: "when a woman wants to **** you, she'll cross the sahara desert for it".
But, how does a man get this "secret" knowledge into his head. It would make game and getting laid SO MUCH easier if I knew on a scale of 1 to 10 how bad she wants it and how much leeway I have to messup vs how tight my game needs to be to convince her.It means she is dripping wet just looking at you and while you are out doing things all she can think about is what it would feel like for her to have your c0ck in her mouth...
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I also found that women NEVER touch you accidently. I used to often move away subconsciously or feel awkward or like I was offensive and found that they kind of test your confidence like that after you send them some signals.When a woman likes you she's going to do things that make it easy - they make it super easy to approach, they make it super easy to talk to them, they make it super easy for you to touch them.. for example by standing/sitting really close and not moving away when you touch accidentally.
I dont think its BS... I had a submissive female CEO who actually sent me loads of presents from the US and came to visit me everytime she went to europe. Changing her business plans timewise to accomodate my schedule and making unnecessary stops at Berlin when visiting France etc.: just to get roughed up. Its really about creating arousal and then they will make it possible! (if they have the ressources obv.).Thanks for sharing that story. When you asked her out via facebook, did you feel 100% confident you would get laid? Did you feel 100% confident she would say yes or was is 50/50, or 10/90?
Personally, I've had similar experiences but never had a feel for how bad she wanted it. That's what my question was getting at.
Also, that Sahara Quote seems to be bull**** because women rarely take action, even when they are horny and want sex.
The easiest way is to find a woman who is already highly interested in youBut, how does a man get this "secret" knowledge into his head. It would make game and getting laid SO MUCH easier if I knew on a scale of 1 to 10 how bad she wants it and how much leeway I have to messup vs how tight my game needs to be to convince her.
Do you understand?
I stand correctedI dont think its BS... I had a submissive female CEO who actually sent me loads of presents from the US and came to visit me everytime she went to europe. Changing her business plans timewise to accomodate my schedule and making unnecessary stops at Berlin when visiting France etc.: just to get roughed up. Its really about creating arousal and then they will make it possible! (if they have the ressources obv.).
Another one from Fuerteventura was visiting family in the south of Germany and flew in through Berlin, then taking an 8h train the next day just so she could spend the night at my place.
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That's true. They can easily avoid touching you if they want and they have many subtle ways of "accidentally" touching you if they want to. Women are very good at doing things without appearing to do anything.I also found that women NEVER touch you accidentally.