"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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How to treat not so attractive girls

Alpheta

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Ive noticed a pattern on this thread. All the 'rules' tend to apply demanded females/attractive females and not the ones that are not high in demand.

Or do you treat all women the same?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Ive noticed a pattern on this thread. All the 'rules' tend to apply demanded females/attractive females and not the ones that are not high in demand.

Or do you treat all women the same?
Most guys, especially on the Internet are going to make it seem like they are screwing models left and right. To answer your question, I wouldn't treat them any different than any other girl you are attracted to.
 

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Ive noticed a pattern on this thread. All the 'rules' tend to apply demanded females/attractive females and not the ones that are not high in demand.

Or do you treat all women the same?
Are you kidding? Do you treat a client who has tons of funds the same as one who has very little? It's about her looks. Nothing else really matters.

Why don't guys have questions about 4/10s? Because they aren't valuable and they know exactly how to act with them. But when a girl is an 8 or 9/10, they start the get confused and get all desperate to prove their worth to the girl. It's brutal.
 

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Ive noticed a pattern on this thread. All the 'rules' tend to apply demanded females/attractive females and not the ones that are not high in demand.

Or do you treat all women the same?
I say treat then all the same to a point, you sure won't try to get anything from a woman you don't feel anything, but some light flirting to practice, or just to make her like you so it will make things easy for you based on her position in a busines can be helpfull, just don't go overboard and check responses.
 

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Simple. If you attract less attractive women, you're doing it right with them. Behave the same way around attractive ones. Don't treat them differently. Don't treat the attractive better, do with them as with everyone else.

So treat the less attractive ones the same way as attractive ones, because you don't treat the attractive ones better.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I treat them all the same with one difference determining how aggressive I am with them: my attraction. If they are ugly, I'd still joke around with them and bust their balls a bit, I just wouldn't physically escalate like I would for a hotty.
 

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I've had problems in the past where I treated them well and they thought I was interested. Then you have to tell them know it's just friends and you get the whole woman scorned drama so they won't be friends anyway and the whole time and the whole time invested was just a waste
 

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You pocket them and screw them when your other girls aren't around.
 

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In theory you are supposed to treat them all the same... It depends on how fat they are.

If she is a fatty.. I won't escalate but I will give a plutonic conversation....

Thin but not very good looking I will escalate...

My verbal game is more on point with girls I am attracted to but I don't feel like they are "out of my league" witch rarely happens.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I've had problems in the past where I treated them well and they thought I was interested. Then you have to tell them know it's just friends and you get the whole woman scorned drama so they won't be friends anyway and the whole time and the whole time invested was just a waste
Same here. Seems I just can't be friends with unattractive girls, except when the unattractiveness is mutual.

P.S.When I saw the title, I read "How to beat" instead of treat :D
 

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Good looking and attraction levels are two different things. A woman you deem unattractive may still have beauty characteristics other women notice. Women in your social circle notice how you treat people. If you are cordial with the frumpy girls(who sometimes have attractive friends) they are more likely to give you approval, and less likely to **** block.

You can use all the same things girls say on the LJBF front. I like calling them my "adopted sister". Keeps me from thinking impure thoughts in a moment of weakness. Some girls that will even make them a better ally, especially if you can hook them up with a desperate mate ...
 

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Same here. Seems I just can't be friends with unattractive girls, except when the unattractiveness is mutual.
Don't know what that last part meant, but I personally would at least try to overlook looks in a non-dating context. Not befriending nor even socializing nor working alongside the opposite sex on the grounds of looks/image/status is what females do, lets not follow their example. This is just emotional and psychological BS exclusive to them, not to mention that in work alone it is unprofessional and tactless. I can't count the occasions I have felt embarrassed or shy talking to anyone I identify as female and being myself, having got such rude treatment by previous other girls.
 

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Ive noticed a pattern on this thread. All the 'rules' tend to apply demanded females/attractive females and not the ones that are not high in demand.

Or do you treat all women the same?
Typically heterosexual men are attracted to women who display signs of youth, femininity and fertility. Those who have high self esteem and style savvy get extra points. Everyone else who is a woman is no less a woman, its just biology.
 
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Like a human being, not a cvm dumpster. They will reward genuine affection with devotion. There are lots of reasons to be attracted to someone other than good looks.

There are lots of guys on here who 'apparently' only date victorias secrets models, or hb9's. Good on you.
I have good women friends who will never be models but are kind, funny, sexually adventurous, sensual, interesting, devoted and giving. I am not going to give them some stupid HB rating.
 

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In my experience, unattractive/average girls will be grateful for the attention, and will do more things to keep you. They also will put up with more shiit from you, and are less likely to leave.
 

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In my experience, unattractive/average girls will be grateful for the attention, and will do more things to keep you. They also will put up with more shiit from you, and are less likely to leave.
They will exhibit more relationship parity and more concerned about what they can do to benefit you. There will be very low entitlement out of these types. Also the sex will flow more freely and she will more willingly submit.
 

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They will exhibit more relationship parity and more concerned about what they can do to benefit you. There will be very low entitlement out of these types. Also the sex will flow more freely and she will more willingly submit.
And she can still LOOK "hot" if she was more into fashion, makeup and kept her body tight.
 

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Treat them like you would treat attactive women to a certain extent
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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