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How to overcome a height sh1t test?

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you comment often on this point. why is it so offensive to you?

I know lots of Western European men in Asia that are ..decent dudes living great lives. Germany, UK, France, Ireland. Most of them its a reboot and good ones. A few screws up, but hey... it's like that.

The thing is that we tell men to move to the city from the country all the time because the prospects are better. How is this different, to move to a location that has a higher percentage of in-shape single young women? guys 5.6 and above in height will be taller than most of them and slightly taller than the average man. At say 5.10 or 511 towering over most, but not ALL.

I should just leave this one, but so interested as to why..., not sexpats, Dudes rebooting life and living large and happy. Some move to open company offices for western companies. How is any of this bad??

I'm not offended at all, have heard it before.
it is not about being offensive , it is about that guys try to convince other guys why East Asians are better than western women

which basically based on this stats , they are not

one thing is to be true to yourself and admit that you can not get laid in the developed world because you lack certain traits and most importantly are too stubborn to admit it , and one thing to rationalize all the garbage that eastern Asian women are feminine and more traditional and bla bla

clearly the 2nd option is not the case

What I am trying to say is that for men , at least here , they would rather vent that women this and that , while they think that they are good as they are . Which clearly is not the case . They lack things , you lack things
 

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china and India are not western countries

they do not even count as developed countries , due to their low gdp per capita

Apparently there were some scientific measures around male heights . You can see them bellow


I live in Western Europe , and at 1.80 I am average in height . Neither short , neither tall .

if I would go to Sweden for example , I would be short , as there the average is around 1.85 m
Sweden has a population of 10 million, Italy and Spain are western european but men from there are short (especially south italians).

I've been to Germany, i was still taller then at least half the guys there. It's not like every Western European guy is a 6ft tall male model.

The internet has warped peoples minds into thinking most guys are 6ft tall.
 

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The internet has warped peoples minds into thinking most guys are 6ft tall.
Most white women in the US on swipe apps think they are entitled to a man 6'0"+. Solution? Approach them off of the apps.
 

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Most white women in the US on swipe apps think they are entitled to a man 6'0"+. Solution? Approach them off of the apps.
Most women can't tell height, just like they know nothing about D size because of all the frauds claiming to have 12 inches.
 

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Most women can't tell height, just like they know nothing about D size because of all the frauds claiming to have 12 inches.
12 inch penises generally don't happen. A 9 inch penis is a big.
 

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The Rock is not 6’5. He is 6’2. Celebrities lie about their height. A true 6’5 actor is Winston Duke, guy who played Gorilla Man in Black Panther and the Avengers.
Especially pro sports. Nhl players under 6ft heights are fudged big time. Brad Marchand isnt 5 foot 9. Hes at the max 5 foot 6 if you ever meet him.
 

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David Beckham is 5'11, the rock is 6'5. You telling me everybody but the rock is wearing height increasing shoes?

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haha, no the rock is exaggerated, but in this photo he is twice the size of the other and he looks solid. in this photo the small guy has two inches of hair sticking up and maybe standing on a phone book.
 
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Beat them to it. You know you're shorter than the "ideal for most women", crack jokes about it before she even has a chance to mention it.

If you do it first and own it then nobody can use it against you, at least not with any effectiveness, just reinforces you instead.

This guy is short comedian. Watch how he starts off his routine about being short, and then segues into something else. So, what you might want to do is script something funny (or scour the internet and steal something) and then be prepared to shift into another funny story/subject while you still "have the floor" so to speak.

Go on fiver or somewhere and hire a writer, or even hire a comedian if you have to so they can write out something for you that takes 90 seconds or so. If done well you can turn this negative into a positive (having a sense of humor).

You do need some sense of humor to pull this off. If you have no sense of humor at all, it will not work as it won't be congruent (she will see that you scripted something).

Also, needless to say, you should either be jacked or have good style. If not, you can start doing what's outlined above in the meantime.
 

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it is not about being offensive , it is about that guys try to convince other guys why East Asians are better than western women

which basically based on this stats , they are not

one thing is to be true to yourself and admit that you can not get laid in the developed world because you lack certain traits and most importantly are too stubborn to admit it , and one thing to rationalize all the garbage that eastern Asian women are feminine and more traditional and bla bla

clearly the 2nd option is not the case

What I am trying to say is that for men , at least here , they would rather vent that women this and that , while they think that they are good as they are . Which clearly is not the case . They lack things , you lack things
my good sir.. we all lack something, me and even you. the magic is to come to terms with that and just forget about it or use it somehow. we get one life only, live it on our own terms.

you are wrong about this topic and likely other things as well.

the smaller Asians in most cases are more feminine. although some literally have more muscle in the small frame because in SOME cases life is harder and hard life builds muscle.

getting laid is no big deal. fcking a girl that turns you on is a deal.

I saw you called china out as the third world, look up a photo of Beijing, from a distance it looks like a sci-fi movie, the building are amazing.

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I am going to add more, for the benefit of others and because you're a good sport.

Assume your right, and you are not, but if yes. Let's say can't get laid is the reason to move to a new location. Moving to the location solves that issue. Now dig really deep and teach us why that is bad. Not doing it would be stupid in that scenario. BLUE PILL FEMINIST tries very hard to tell good western men that Asian women are bad and that they are somehow less of a man if they date them. Those men should continue to simp for the Feminists. Now as men, why would we tell each other that? Jealousy... perhaps...

If a man is very worried about being short, moving to a location where he is considered average or even tall is a solution.

interesting debate.
how do you respond?
 
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First off, don't date taller women. Don't swipe right on tall women on OLD.
I have come across a few tall women who seem to have a fetish for guys shorter than them. They really are out there. With that being said, I prefer women shorter women. Though I did have a LTR with a women my height.
 

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so i should just give up until people get old or have no other options?
I’m sorry if this sounds like bluepilled Reddit advice. But try and improve everything. Everything matters. Even a small amount. Any improvement, might just push you over the threshold and make you acceptable to the girl. I know some here will condemn this, as putting a girl on a pedestal. Maybe it is. But ultimately, they are the choosers. Go out as much as possible. Drink your coffee at a coffee shop, not at home. Force yourself out all the time. Try for social circle game. Not saying any of this will be easy. Realize that you’ll have to be the initiator. Remember the goal. Nothing on Earth is better than being with a woman. Focus on this goal. Others might deride this. But you can’t fight biology. Accept it.
 

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I have been to Germany a couple of times, and I remember the Germans being on the tall side. The Poles were also on the big side (been to Krakow)

Serbs and Croats are also very tall (although I have never been to either country).

One story I will never forget, my friend and I were in the Harvard bookstore years back in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Out of the corner of my eye there was a group of guys (about 5 of them) all tall and jacked. The shortest of the group was still 6'2" and I found out it was some Scandinavian (forget which country) crew team. The Charles River is right there and there must have been a tournament.
There are a lot of Turks in Germany that bring down the average height.


haha, no the rock is exaggerated, but in this photo he is twice the size of the other and he looks solid. in this photo the small guy has two inches of hair sticking up and maybe standing on a phone book.
The Rock is a walking talking Advertisement, I don't trust a word that he says. He always come across as someone extremely fake to me. He even pretends his natural without ever using steriods.

The Rock is not 6’5. He is 6’2. Celebrities lie about their height. A true 6’5 actor is Winston Duke, guy who played Gorilla Man in Black Panther and the Avengers.
I would say his 6ft tall at most, the way he always takes his photos is also sus. He always tries to make himself appear bigger and more muscular.

12 inch penises generally don't happen. A 9 inch penis is a big.
P@rn gives men and women unrealistic expectations, they also think they are worthless if they don't last hours in bed.
 

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The Rock is a walking talking Advertisement, I don't trust a word that he says. He always come across as someone extremely fake to me. He even pretends his natural without ever using steriods.
haha, you could be right. Also, he has more money than I, he is taller, younger, better status. I mean I don't think he is sitting around worried about what you and I think of him. The dude rocks and by luck or plan is in the elite.

If he(the rock) was giving out advice in the forum, I would follow that user. It's smart to listen to those that win.

I mean if he said, hey Zimbabwe let's go hang out. you would go, right??
 

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Women can have whoever they want in this free market.

Women will typically try to go for the best that's available to them. Guys in this market fight for the scraps.

So, when a woman is presented with a 6'3 guy, the 5'7 guy has a lot of catching up to do to get noticed by her. It's a dominance and status issue. 6'3 guy standing next to 5'7 guy will always look extremely dominant.

This is reality. Being a short dude, in a market with plenty of tall dudes, is a huge disadvantage . Life isn't fair. Short guys creep women out. It's one of their biggest turn offs.
I remember, shortly before Covid, my GF & I were at a metal music festival. I noted that I was heightmogged by 80% of the guys there. But, I was one of the few guys with a girl in his arms. My friends mostly heightmog me. But when we go out, girls approach me, not them. Sure. I wish I were tall. Height is definitely a positive. But. Claiming ‘short guys creep women out.’ Is utterly ridiculous. As for me being a ‘turn off” to women because I’m short. I have had women literally beg me for sex. I’m not saying this to brag. Rather, to show being 5’6” is not the Dating Death Sentence some claim it is.
 

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If being short wasn't a major handicap then guys wouldn't complain about it.

It's similar to having a small d1ck. Women will say it doesn't matter because women don't want to appear shallow (they are extremely shallow). Size does matter unfortunately.

Your experience with women naturally gravitating to you and begging you for sex is not typical for any guy, let alone a short guy.
j2ckdvzaavb81.jpg There are Billions of men under 5'5 still getting laid, there is not a single excuse.

Short men blame tall guys

Poor men blame rich guys

Skinny men blame bodybuilders

Introverted men blame charismatic guys

At what point do Men stop making excuses for their lack of success?
 
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Another thing OP, if it hasn't been mentioned: work on your voice. Whatever your natural speaking pitch is, work on lowering the center of resonance down towards your chest. Work on projection (being loud with maximum resonance in your body). You can have a larger-than-life persona simply by being loud and having a deep voice.

Danny Devito is 5 foot 1.

This is how he talks:



This is his mindset:

“I have such a good life,” he’s saying now. “I may be worried about, you know, are my feet dry? Should I put some more cream on my legs? This is, like, my big problem. So, yeah, I am self-centered. It’s like, ‘Here I am!’ Me, me, me, me, me, basically — bull****, bull****, bull****. I was coming down the street the other day and saw a possum. Who the **** cares about it? I want to tell you what happened to me!”
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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