"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
How to Get Her to say "I Love You" (first)
- Thread starter bigneil
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Yes… Whether she actually does or not, she will always use the L word first.
She may try to tease you into doing it first by using the word in multiple statements like. I love the way you do such and such,etc. Don't go for it.
xstang77
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1) She says "I'm in love" to her friends.
2) Her friends tell her "You're in love" (You won't be informed until months later).
3) She writes "I love your (something)" in a text. Example "I love your eyes".
4) She says "I love your (something)" in person. Example "I love your tie".
5) She tells you how good it feels when you hold her.
6) She makes love with you.
7) She writes "I like you a lot" in a text.
8) She says "I like you a lot" in person.
9) She says "I like you a LOT" several times one drunken night.
10) She casually says "I love you" in person.
11) She promises she will love you until the end of time (without your asking).
Note: none of this really means she loves you but it means she thinks she does during those particular moments. Don't think this means anything other than that. You must reseduce her every time.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
sazc
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Useless letters, wasted breath
sazc
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If a man is by my side, loyal thru thick and thin, good and bad, joy, sorrow, anger, that's when you know it's love.
Still waiting
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
When a girl says I love you for the first time and then has at least 10 orgasms, it means something, trust me.
I didn't say it was forever, but having them love you just for that night is still great.
This forum is absolutely about getting the women you love to say "I love you". How can any "Don Juan" deny this?
Skyline
Master Don Juan
I agree with bigneil on this. This forum is centered around being the best man you can be which mesns having a functional sex/relationship life as well.
Relations play a huge factor in life. Not just personal but friendly ones as well.
I'm currently going down the "player life" and it isn't as great as it seems. I used to bed a new girl every month but I slowed it down quite a bit because of the drawbacks. I consider hook ups low value and a destructive habit for me at this point.
It's easy to bed a woman but to have her head over heels for you? That's a challenge for some of us.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
KingofPuss
Master Don Juan
Some girls are too shy to say it first. This happened with one of my exes. She would drop the "I like you soooooo much" all the time, especially while drinking. We ended up having a great relationship, for the most part, and she's the only girl I think I have ever loved.
And guess what?! I said it first, while we were both drunk. Didn't change a thing. I think some dudes on here are so freaking anal about all these perceived "rules". Do what works for your situation. Most girls are very similar to what they do and do not like, but some are wired differently.
You might have a woman who you are not that attracted to who ultimately convinces the one who you are attracted to how great you are.
RangerMIke
Master Don Juan
Don't worry about 'benchmarks', just keep fvcking her and let her figure out what it means to her. If you are too worried about where you stand with a woman you hav lost your masculine frame.
You guys seem to think you can factor whether she loves you out of the equation. Your woman believing she loves you is a lot closer to the most important thing than it is to the least important thing. In particular you want to be her #1 guy. Ask 3 women to describe the men they love the most and then tell me those guys are no better off than any other guys in her life.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.