"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
How to Get Her to say "I Love You" (first)
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Yes… Whether she actually does or not, she will always use the L word first.
She may try to tease you into doing it first by using the word in multiple statements like. I love the way you do such and such,etc. Don't go for it.
xstang77
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1) She says "I'm in love" to her friends.
2) Her friends tell her "You're in love" (You won't be informed until months later).
3) She writes "I love your (something)" in a text. Example "I love your eyes".
4) She says "I love your (something)" in person. Example "I love your tie".
5) She tells you how good it feels when you hold her.
6) She makes love with you.
7) She writes "I like you a lot" in a text.
8) She says "I like you a lot" in person.
9) She says "I like you a LOT" several times one drunken night.
10) She casually says "I love you" in person.
11) She promises she will love you until the end of time (without your asking).
Note: none of this really means she loves you but it means she thinks she does during those particular moments. Don't think this means anything other than that. You must reseduce her every time.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
sazc
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Useless letters, wasted breath
sazc
Master Don Juan
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If a man is by my side, loyal thru thick and thin, good and bad, joy, sorrow, anger, that's when you know it's love.
Still waiting
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
When a girl says I love you for the first time and then has at least 10 orgasms, it means something, trust me.
I didn't say it was forever, but having them love you just for that night is still great.
This forum is absolutely about getting the women you love to say "I love you". How can any "Don Juan" deny this?
Skyline
Master Don Juan
I agree with bigneil on this. This forum is centered around being the best man you can be which mesns having a functional sex/relationship life as well.
Relations play a huge factor in life. Not just personal but friendly ones as well.
I'm currently going down the "player life" and it isn't as great as it seems. I used to bed a new girl every month but I slowed it down quite a bit because of the drawbacks. I consider hook ups low value and a destructive habit for me at this point.
It's easy to bed a woman but to have her head over heels for you? That's a challenge for some of us.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
KingofPuss
Master Don Juan
Some girls are too shy to say it first. This happened with one of my exes. She would drop the "I like you soooooo much" all the time, especially while drinking. We ended up having a great relationship, for the most part, and she's the only girl I think I have ever loved.
And guess what?! I said it first, while we were both drunk. Didn't change a thing. I think some dudes on here are so freaking anal about all these perceived "rules". Do what works for your situation. Most girls are very similar to what they do and do not like, but some are wired differently.
You might have a woman who you are not that attracted to who ultimately convinces the one who you are attracted to how great you are.
RangerMIke
Master Don Juan
Don't worry about 'benchmarks', just keep fvcking her and let her figure out what it means to her. If you are too worried about where you stand with a woman you hav lost your masculine frame.
You guys seem to think you can factor whether she loves you out of the equation. Your woman believing she loves you is a lot closer to the most important thing than it is to the least important thing. In particular you want to be her #1 guy. Ask 3 women to describe the men they love the most and then tell me those guys are no better off than any other guys in her life.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.