Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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How to Get Her to say "I Love You" (first)

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Getting her to say "I love you" is easy!

Get one of her friends to do it first!

(Also works for getting phone number, kiss and lay).
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I thought women always said it first.

You're telling me there are men out there that are so desperate they would say that first?
 

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I thought women always said it first.

You're telling me there are men out there that are so desperate they would say that first?
Yes… Whether she actually does or not, she will always use the L word first.
She may try to tease you into doing it first by using the word in multiple statements like. I love the way you do such and such,etc. Don't go for it.
 
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It's not hard to get her to say it first if you can just keep her emotions going full speed forward, once she does she'll most likely mention it often afterwards that she said it first, she'll also usually stop loving you first too...what's the point of this thread?
 

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First signs she loves you:

1) She says "I'm in love" to her friends.
2) Her friends tell her "You're in love" (You won't be informed until months later).
3) She writes "I love your (something)" in a text. Example "I love your eyes".
4) She says "I love your (something)" in person. Example "I love your tie".
5) She tells you how good it feels when you hold her.
6) She makes love with you.
7) She writes "I like you a lot" in a text.
8) She says "I like you a lot" in person.
9) She says "I like you a LOT" several times one drunken night.
10) She casually says "I love you" in person.
11) She promises she will love you until the end of time (without your asking).

Note: none of this really means she loves you but it means she thinks she does during those particular moments. Don't think this means anything other than that. You must reseduce her every time.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Meh, most people don't know what those three words even mean....They attribute "love" to feelings they feel while infatuated. They say it when the relationship is on an upswing and then act like a d1ck the MOMENT they are upset.

Useless letters, wasted breath
 

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Who cares. It means nothing.
 

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Who cares. It means nothing.
If a man is by my side, loyal thru thick and thin, good and bad, joy, sorrow, anger, that's when you know it's love.
Still waiting
 

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First signs she loves you:

1) She says "I'm in love" to her friends.
2) Her friends tell her "You're in love" (You won't be informed until months later).
3) She writes "I love your (something)" in a text. Example "I love your eyes".
4) She says "I love your (something)" in person. Example "I love your tie".
5) She tells you how good it feels when you hold her.
6) She makes love with you.
7) She writes "I like you a lot" in a text.
8) She says "I like you a lot" in person.
9) She says "I like you a LOT" several times one drunken night.
10) She casually says "I love you" in person.
11) She promises she will love you until the end of time (without your asking).

Note: none of this really means she loves you but it means she thinks she does during those particular moments. Don't think this means anything other than that. You must reseduce her every time.
Sounds like a Hallmark card.

She loves me, she loves me not. Love yourself first.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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While we have to re-seduce them every time, we still hope to reach the point of at least one successful seduction.

When a girl says I love you for the first time and then has at least 10 orgasms, it means something, trust me.
 

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People forget the idea of marriage was created by kings to keep one man with one woman. And it was ordained by the church, not "God." Infatuation surely exists. But love that lasts a lifetime? That's a Disney fairy tale.
I didn't say it was forever, but having them love you just for that night is still great.
 

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Is this what this forum has come to? Getting a girl to say "I love you"?

Good grief Charlie Brown.
 

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Is this what this forum has come to? Getting a girl to say "I love you"?

Good grief Charlie Brown.
This forum is absolutely about getting the women you love to say "I love you". How can any "Don Juan" deny this?
 

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Is this what this forum has come to? Getting a girl to say "I love you"?

Good grief Charlie Brown.
I agree with bigneil on this. This forum is centered around being the best man you can be which mesns having a functional sex/relationship life as well.

Relations play a huge factor in life. Not just personal but friendly ones as well.

I'm currently going down the "player life" and it isn't as great as it seems. I used to bed a new girl every month but I slowed it down quite a bit because of the drawbacks. I consider hook ups low value and a destructive habit for me at this point.

It's easy to bed a woman but to have her head over heels for you? That's a challenge for some of us.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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She say she love me whatever that is

Some girls are too shy to say it first. This happened with one of my exes. She would drop the "I like you soooooo much" all the time, especially while drinking. We ended up having a great relationship, for the most part, and she's the only girl I think I have ever loved.

And guess what?! I said it first, while we were both drunk. Didn't change a thing. I think some dudes on here are so freaking anal about all these perceived "rules". Do what works for your situation. Most girls are very similar to what they do and do not like, but some are wired differently.
 

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My main point was: a woman often falls in love with a man by observing another woman who has fallen in love with him.

You might have a woman who you are not that attracted to who ultimately convinces the one who you are attracted to how great you are.
 

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Judge her by what she does, not what she says or doesn't say.

Don't worry about 'benchmarks', just keep fvcking her and let her figure out what it means to her. If you are too worried about where you stand with a woman you hav lost your masculine frame.
 

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Those words mean squat to a woman. She can love you one min, and not love you the next. Let her decide when that happens...
 

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A woman can love you one minute and not love you the next, but you are still better off having been loved for one minute.

You guys seem to think you can factor whether she loves you out of the equation. Your woman believing she loves you is a lot closer to the most important thing than it is to the least important thing. In particular you want to be her #1 guy. Ask 3 women to describe the men they love the most and then tell me those guys are no better off than any other guys in her life.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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