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Master Don Juan
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When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
But its going to be a battle to keep myself happy..when I feel lonely...I have social anxiety...
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
nice one on the bumping jobJariel said:Bump for the newbies. Hope it's useful to you.
didn't you change, didn't these tips made you to what you are now? your post sounds a bit too much like "dont use any of dj bible cause it's not yourself". but didn't you have to change yourself, didn't you have some time in your life where you were teaching yourself things where you couldnt be yourself (weren't true to yourself) but where you are yourself now when doing them?? (read this alinea 3x please)Jariel said:Anyone who is willing to change who they are or put on an act to get what they want are not being true to themselves and this in itself is the ultimate act of supplication. It is not the DJ way and sooner or later people will see through you.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
qlo said:
I really fvcked up what I intended to say here and this could be read as very bad advice! I apologise and need to clarify.Anyone who is willing to change who they are or put on an act to get what they want are not being true to themselves and this in itself is the ultimate act of supplication. It is not the DJ way and sooner or later people will see through you.
It is true that I gained a lot from this forum and a lot of the tips helped steer me in the right direction. However, using the tips and games without a confident foundation never got me anywhere. I was merely a messed up shy guy behaving erratically and my games were totally transparent.qlo said:but really: do you honestly think that you would have gotten that insight so early (if at all) without forums like this? i mean.. as almost everyone here you came to this site as a shy guy (atleast that's what i assume). do you really think you would even be able to freely talk to girls etc. (like you did in that one month of celibacy and prolly still now) without those hints and games etc.?
i mean, of course, you don't have to pretend to be someone else, you don't have to do all these tricks and games when they just aren't you, but dont you think you have MADE some of those hints/games you??
I know what you're saying, but it's hard to give a yes or no answer to this. I mean, it's true that I have reconditioned myself using a lot of info on this forum. I've reconditioned myself not to feel shame for my sexuality, to no longer fear or worship women and to move on when things fail, for example, and this all comes naturally now. But in terms of lines, gimmicks and pick up techniques, I found I didn't need it once I developed confidence! This kind of thing is a placebo for people without confidence, motivating them and making them think more positively (until it fails, that is).didn't these tips, tricks and games etc. re-taught your subconscious mind on how to deal with women, so that it became natural to you, that it happened automatically and that you still are being your (changed) self? (but therefore had to do those things a certain time when they weren't natural to you, but they are now, you do them automatically now?)
I tried to clear this up above as I had overlooked a mistake in my writing there. But to answer, yes I found change extremely important, and I did adapt my values, beliefs and everything, and I am literally not the same person I was beforehand. However, it was a REAL and gradual change/development, rather than an act or forced change. I.e. I didn't go in thinking "I must behave X way tonight" or "I must start doing Y more often", it was more a case of "I fvcked up doing X last time, I won't do that again".didn't you change, didn't these tips made you to what you are now? your post sounds a bit too much like "dont use any of dj bible cause it's not yourself". but didn't you have to change yourself, didn't you have some time in your life where you were teaching yourself things where you couldnt be yourself (weren't true to yourself) but where you are yourself now when doing them?? (read this alinea 3x please)
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
it doesJariel said:...
Hope this clarifies things.
This is now rightJariel said:Firstly, thanks to Glo for pointing this out...
I really fvcked up what I intended to say here and this could be read as very bad advice! I apologise and need to clarify.
What I was trying to express is that you shouldn't start acting differently or put on a fake front to impress other people. However, any kind of long term change, that improves your core IS good!
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.