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Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
But its going to be a battle to keep myself happy..when I feel lonely...I have social anxiety...
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
nice one on the bumping jobJariel said:Bump for the newbies. Hope it's useful to you.
didn't you change, didn't these tips made you to what you are now? your post sounds a bit too much like "dont use any of dj bible cause it's not yourself". but didn't you have to change yourself, didn't you have some time in your life where you were teaching yourself things where you couldnt be yourself (weren't true to yourself) but where you are yourself now when doing them?? (read this alinea 3x please)Jariel said:Anyone who is willing to change who they are or put on an act to get what they want are not being true to themselves and this in itself is the ultimate act of supplication. It is not the DJ way and sooner or later people will see through you.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
qlo said:
I really fvcked up what I intended to say here and this could be read as very bad advice! I apologise and need to clarify.Anyone who is willing to change who they are or put on an act to get what they want are not being true to themselves and this in itself is the ultimate act of supplication. It is not the DJ way and sooner or later people will see through you.
It is true that I gained a lot from this forum and a lot of the tips helped steer me in the right direction. However, using the tips and games without a confident foundation never got me anywhere. I was merely a messed up shy guy behaving erratically and my games were totally transparent.qlo said:but really: do you honestly think that you would have gotten that insight so early (if at all) without forums like this? i mean.. as almost everyone here you came to this site as a shy guy (atleast that's what i assume). do you really think you would even be able to freely talk to girls etc. (like you did in that one month of celibacy and prolly still now) without those hints and games etc.?
i mean, of course, you don't have to pretend to be someone else, you don't have to do all these tricks and games when they just aren't you, but dont you think you have MADE some of those hints/games you??
I know what you're saying, but it's hard to give a yes or no answer to this. I mean, it's true that I have reconditioned myself using a lot of info on this forum. I've reconditioned myself not to feel shame for my sexuality, to no longer fear or worship women and to move on when things fail, for example, and this all comes naturally now. But in terms of lines, gimmicks and pick up techniques, I found I didn't need it once I developed confidence! This kind of thing is a placebo for people without confidence, motivating them and making them think more positively (until it fails, that is).didn't these tips, tricks and games etc. re-taught your subconscious mind on how to deal with women, so that it became natural to you, that it happened automatically and that you still are being your (changed) self? (but therefore had to do those things a certain time when they weren't natural to you, but they are now, you do them automatically now?)
I tried to clear this up above as I had overlooked a mistake in my writing there. But to answer, yes I found change extremely important, and I did adapt my values, beliefs and everything, and I am literally not the same person I was beforehand. However, it was a REAL and gradual change/development, rather than an act or forced change. I.e. I didn't go in thinking "I must behave X way tonight" or "I must start doing Y more often", it was more a case of "I fvcked up doing X last time, I won't do that again".didn't you change, didn't these tips made you to what you are now? your post sounds a bit too much like "dont use any of dj bible cause it's not yourself". but didn't you have to change yourself, didn't you have some time in your life where you were teaching yourself things where you couldnt be yourself (weren't true to yourself) but where you are yourself now when doing them?? (read this alinea 3x please)
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
it doesJariel said:...
Hope this clarifies things.
This is now rightJariel said:Firstly, thanks to Glo for pointing this out...
I really fvcked up what I intended to say here and this could be read as very bad advice! I apologise and need to clarify.
What I was trying to express is that you shouldn't start acting differently or put on a fake front to impress other people. However, any kind of long term change, that improves your core IS good!
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.