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Master Don Juan
Best topic on the forum:woo:
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
But its going to be a battle to keep myself happy..when I feel lonely...I have social anxiety...
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
nice one on the bumping jobJariel said:Bump for the newbies. Hope it's useful to you.
didn't you change, didn't these tips made you to what you are now? your post sounds a bit too much like "dont use any of dj bible cause it's not yourself". but didn't you have to change yourself, didn't you have some time in your life where you were teaching yourself things where you couldnt be yourself (weren't true to yourself) but where you are yourself now when doing them?? (read this alinea 3x please)Jariel said:Anyone who is willing to change who they are or put on an act to get what they want are not being true to themselves and this in itself is the ultimate act of supplication. It is not the DJ way and sooner or later people will see through you.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
qlo said:
I really fvcked up what I intended to say here and this could be read as very bad advice! I apologise and need to clarify.Anyone who is willing to change who they are or put on an act to get what they want are not being true to themselves and this in itself is the ultimate act of supplication. It is not the DJ way and sooner or later people will see through you.
It is true that I gained a lot from this forum and a lot of the tips helped steer me in the right direction. However, using the tips and games without a confident foundation never got me anywhere. I was merely a messed up shy guy behaving erratically and my games were totally transparent.qlo said:but really: do you honestly think that you would have gotten that insight so early (if at all) without forums like this? i mean.. as almost everyone here you came to this site as a shy guy (atleast that's what i assume). do you really think you would even be able to freely talk to girls etc. (like you did in that one month of celibacy and prolly still now) without those hints and games etc.?
i mean, of course, you don't have to pretend to be someone else, you don't have to do all these tricks and games when they just aren't you, but dont you think you have MADE some of those hints/games you??
I know what you're saying, but it's hard to give a yes or no answer to this. I mean, it's true that I have reconditioned myself using a lot of info on this forum. I've reconditioned myself not to feel shame for my sexuality, to no longer fear or worship women and to move on when things fail, for example, and this all comes naturally now. But in terms of lines, gimmicks and pick up techniques, I found I didn't need it once I developed confidence! This kind of thing is a placebo for people without confidence, motivating them and making them think more positively (until it fails, that is).didn't these tips, tricks and games etc. re-taught your subconscious mind on how to deal with women, so that it became natural to you, that it happened automatically and that you still are being your (changed) self? (but therefore had to do those things a certain time when they weren't natural to you, but they are now, you do them automatically now?)
I tried to clear this up above as I had overlooked a mistake in my writing there. But to answer, yes I found change extremely important, and I did adapt my values, beliefs and everything, and I am literally not the same person I was beforehand. However, it was a REAL and gradual change/development, rather than an act or forced change. I.e. I didn't go in thinking "I must behave X way tonight" or "I must start doing Y more often", it was more a case of "I fvcked up doing X last time, I won't do that again".didn't you change, didn't these tips made you to what you are now? your post sounds a bit too much like "dont use any of dj bible cause it's not yourself". but didn't you have to change yourself, didn't you have some time in your life where you were teaching yourself things where you couldnt be yourself (weren't true to yourself) but where you are yourself now when doing them?? (read this alinea 3x please)
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
it doesJariel said:...
Hope this clarifies things.
This is now rightJariel said:Firstly, thanks to Glo for pointing this out...
I really fvcked up what I intended to say here and this could be read as very bad advice! I apologise and need to clarify.
What I was trying to express is that you shouldn't start acting differently or put on a fake front to impress other people. However, any kind of long term change, that improves your core IS good!
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.