Wow how did he come about getting into this lifestyle?I was 22-23 years old, my dad gave me the book the game when i was working security one day. Read the book, loved it, stumbled upon the community and than this forum, the rest is history
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Wow how did he come about getting into this lifestyle?I was 22-23 years old, my dad gave me the book the game when i was working security one day. Read the book, loved it, stumbled upon the community and than this forum, the rest is history
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
There is no blurring between the redpill and blackpill, as far as I've noticed. If you watch Rollo's content you'd conclude that his rather direct observations actually come from a place of humor and sometimes pity for women, and not resentment or hatred of women.I think the line between red and black pill is becoming more tenuous and blurred. It wasn't just those recurrent posters here, it's the higher levels of misogynist toxicity that I've noticed in seduction and men's improvement communities in general.
I define "red pill" (although I did not come up with the term) as understanding the biological mechanics of female behavior -- why they are turned off by neediness, why they are turned on by confidence, why they are attracted to taller men, why they are attracted to pre-selected men, why they nest with subservient men, why they leave betas for alphas, but also why they leave alphas for betas, etc.
Understanding, and accepting with grace, that these mechanics are always in play when dealing with women, is the how one succeeds with women -- learning to use those mechanics to your advantage in dating.
But a lot of 'red pill' circles are angry and resentful at those biological mechanics. Maybe that's considered "black pill" but I see a lot of resentful, bitter and downright misogynist material coming from self-professed red pill guys like Rich Cooper, Rollo Tomassi etc. The Rational Male is so underscored with resentment for women that one could not possibly view RT as a seducer who loves women. He sounds like a beta dude who's been burned by women over and over, and hates them for it. Is that what "taking the red pill" is? I hope not.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Thanks for your contributions BeE, it’s always a good thing to occasionally get your perspective on some important issues.Advice from the old lady:
I stumbled in here in 2015 at 46 years of age. I was searching the web for information about BPD because my boyfriend’s ex wife had been clinically diagnosed as such and was crazy AF. For a while I lurked quietly and read things, especially the BPD combined thread, which helped me better support my man and know that his situation was not isolated…
Then at some point a smug poster named @Ronaldo7 had a thread so over the top I had to chime in, so I joined. I’ve been around ever since. I’m here to give perspective, offer a different view, show the ladies’ playbook and rationale & support the development of solid masculine men. The world needs more real men out there. So I try and encourage & facilitate that in my own small way.
The forum seems to cycle to a degree regarding quality of content. There have always been quality posters, there have always been the hopelessly lost, there have been the occasional female around…most of the best posters eventually move on to other life endeavors, some folks get banned, and some periodically pop back in.
The search function is a great resource, especially for the casual lurkers or the newbies. There is great content from years past at the entry of a query, over and above the DJ Bible & Book of Pook.
There are cool men who hang out here. Quality guys giving their time & perspective from all over the world.
It’s pretty dam cool.
Cheers
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Don’t know how you get that. I enter sosuave forum or single word sosuave and it pops up immediately …Also, it has been basically delisted by Google.
Yes, I understand and found this forum in a similar manner. Something to consider though, a search term like ‘daddy issues’ could well be returning far more results than it did 8 years ago. Media expansion plus more issue attention…But if you search for a topic that is widely discussed here, the site never shows up. I found this website by describing certain actions that my BPD ex-girlfriend was doing
damn young man2021, 18 years old. Everything has changed, I notice the patterns more easily, and it's time for me to learn from people's experiences and be better, as well as share this wisdom among my male peers.
he gave you the book?I was 22-23 years old, my dad gave me the book the game when i was working security one day. Read the book, loved it, stumbled upon the community and than this forum, the rest is history
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Yes, he gave me the book while i was doing security work one night, read the whole book that night, like said, the rest is history. This was in 2009he gave you the book?
Forum: 2014 (24 years old)I was 22, I joined the same year I discovered the forum, 2013. I found this forum looking for answers about my lack of success with women and to overcome anxiety. A lot has changed since then. I eradicated my anxiety, worked through a bunch of other issues, started getting women and having sex again. In 2015 I started a LTR, in 2019 we got married and last year we got a son. My life is great.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.